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Who Will Be the #1 Overall Pick?

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by tellitlikeitis, Jan 30, 2014.

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Who's going first on June 5?

Poll closed Jun 5, 2014.
  1. Carlos Rodon

    92.3%
  2. Jeff Hoffman

    0.7%
  3. Trea Turner

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Tyler Kolek

    2.8%
  5. Jacob Gatewood

    1.4%
  6. Alex Jackson

    0.7%
  7. Other, please name

    2.1%
  1. tellitlikeitis

    tellitlikeitis Canceled
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Tyler Kolek is a high school senior from Shepherd who pitches as fast as 102 mph: <a href="http://t.co/aAHpHWtE3S">http://t.co/aAHpHWtE3S</a></p>&mdash; Texas Monthly (@TexasMonthly) <a href="https://twitter.com/TexasMonthly/statuses/450663282462826496">March 31, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    Perfect Game's Kendall Rogers, who normally covers college baseball for them, couldn't pass up an opportunity to check out Kolek this past weekend. He lives in Spring, I think.

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Kolek? Very good. FB was up to 99, SL is big-time. RT <a href="https://twitter.com/kcmgallo905">@kcmgallo905</a>: <a href="https://twitter.com/KendallRogersPG">@KendallRogersPG</a> how did he pitc</p>&mdash; Kendall Rogers (@KendallRogersPG) <a href="https://twitter.com/KendallRogersPG/statuses/450107819467870208">March 30, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Elite RHP Tyler Kolek 96-98 in the first inning, smashing the inside corner. Also threw a couple of CBs at 81-83. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23mlbdraft&amp;src=hash">#mlbdraft</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/PerfectGameUSA">@PerfectGameUSA</a></p>&mdash; Kendall Rogers (@KendallRogersPG) <a href="https://twitter.com/KendallRogersPG/statuses/450048280752164864">March 29, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>RHP Tyler Kolek filthy in the second. Strikes out the side on 97 FB, as a pair of 81 mph sliders. SL wasn't fair with that FB. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23mlbdraft&amp;src=hash">#mlbdraft</a></p>&mdash; Kendall Rogers (@KendallRogersPG) <a href="https://twitter.com/KendallRogersPG/statuses/450053200414908416">March 29, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Pretty impressed w/ Tyler Kolek's ability to hold velocity. Touched 99 in the fourth inning, sitting 96-98 still. As advertised. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23mlbdraft&amp;src=hash">#mlbdraft</a></p>&mdash; Kendall Rogers (@KendallRogersPG) <a href="https://twitter.com/KendallRogersPG/statuses/450064093118861312">March 30, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Tyler Kolek finishes w/ 98 FB. Showed a nasty 81 mph slider in fifth. Five innings complete game, 13 Ks. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23mlbdraft&amp;src=hash">#mlbdraft</a> <a href="http://t.co/O5nO0jSGws">pic.twitter.com/O5nO0jSGws</a></p>&mdash; Kendall Rogers (@KendallRogersPG) <a href="https://twitter.com/KendallRogersPG/statuses/450068640990105600">March 30, 2014</a></blockquote>
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  2. No Worries

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    Not only is there a 2-3 year development time needed to prep a college arm for the MLB, there is less than a 50% chance for those second and third round college arms to actually making it to the MLB.
     
  3. tellitlikeitis

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Tyler Kolek up to 62 K/1 BB over 27.1 innings. Has allowed three hits. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23MLBDraft&amp;src=hash">#MLBDraft</a></p>&mdash; Dan Kirby (@DanMKirby) <a href="https://twitter.com/DanMKirby/statuses/450668619551084544">March 31, 2014</a></blockquote>
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  4. HstnSprtsFan101

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    Kolek is definitely very intruiging, making a case for himself. Especially if Rodon wants too much $ like Appel in 2012. The one BB is the main thing for me, shows he's a pitcher and not just a hard thrower. I'm still all about Rodon though, would rather have a proven college ace who will move quickly through the system
     
  5. J.R.

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>A scout I respect tremendously tells me NC State's Carlos Rodon is no longer viewed by the Astros as a slam dunk choice for the 1st pick.</p>&mdash; Jose de Jesus Ortiz (@OrtizKicks) <a href="https://twitter.com/OrtizKicks/statuses/451725535530340352">April 3, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>I'd be shocked if the Astros take RHP Tyler Kolek, but the big country kid from outside of Houston will be seen by a huge Astros group soon.</p>&mdash; Jose de Jesus Ortiz (@OrtizKicks) <a href="https://twitter.com/OrtizKicks/statuses/451726181239238656">April 3, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>The Astros have done plenty of homework on Kolek, and the kid checks lots of boxes off the field as well.</p>&mdash; Jose de Jesus Ortiz (@OrtizKicks) <a href="https://twitter.com/OrtizKicks/statuses/451727098894229504">April 3, 2014</a></blockquote>
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  6. Roc Paint

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    I love when Houston brings in local talent.
     
  7. juicystream

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    Passed on Kohl Stewart last year, who was similarly the top ranked prep arm, and from Houston, though I believe Kolek is more highly regarded.

    Amazing for one city to do that two years running.
     
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    One thing Rodon has going for him is that Hoffman hasn't really helped himself so far this season either. Beede has, but had fallen back so far, that I don't think he is a legit candidate.

    Seems like it would be Rodon/Kolek/Alex Jackson up for the top pick to me, and in that order.
     
  9. bigtexxx

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    Rodon about to take the loss again today. NC State down 6-1 in the late innings. Rodon has given up 11 hits through 7 and 2/3rds
     
  10. J.R.

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    Rodon's draft stock continues to drop

     
  11. awc713

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    i was all in on rodon, but his decreased speeds are especially concerning.

    very frustrating not only to have 3 straight #1s, but not to have a clear, consensus #1 pick any year. was really hoping rodon was that guy, but it doesnt look like it right now.
     
  12. Nick

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    I could care less about consensus #1's as it still is all about how they perform once they actually play ball.

    So far, Correa looks to be every bit the #1 guy this team needs. Appel will need more time to evaluate, but considering he was in the running to be the #1 guy the year before and got better... he really was more of a stand-out prospect than being given credit for.

    Its still largely a crap-shoot. The Rays had 3 #1 picks, and only one of them (Price) turned out to be the "guy". The ratio of "franchise-player" to #1 picks in MLB is still very low... over the last 20 years, I'd consider only Mauer and A-Rod to be that sort of player, with Harper still too young to make a determination on.
     
  13. juicystream

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    I won't complain about the 2012 draft. Correa & Buxton look like stars.
     
  14. No Worries

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    Giving up 3 ERs over 8 innings? Rodon, how could you?
     
  15. juicystream

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    The 11 hits & only 5 Ks are the the problem stats.
     
  16. No Worries

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    Incorrect. The problem stat is 8 innings. Small sample size.
     
  17. juicystream

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    It isn't just 8 innings. Hasn't been great this season.
     
  18. No Worries

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    I'll willing to wait until the college season is over before taking a serious look at Rodon's stats.
     
  19. HTown_DieHard

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    But.. But... Tyler Kolek is dominating Texas 3A HS...

    I don't even know anymore.

    Disappointing to see Rodon's FB velocity sit at 90-93.. NCST has pitched him into the ground the past two seasons. Perhaps it's finally taking a toll?

    Htown is seriously cursed.
     
  20. Roc Paint

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    Didn't we pick Mark Appel last year?
     

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