Why do I need to prove there is no God?

I actually agree with this. I'm a huge proponent of religion and science in their purest and intended forms. But I have no tolerance for those who chose to use them as tools for manipulation or ridicule.

 

Anyone who acts like they know for sure God exists or anyone who acts like they know for sure God does not exist is a douchebag either way.

 

Quote the rest of that statement. No I didn't.

 

Trust me when I tell you I'm not remotely interested in arguing with you...and frankly, if I weren't waiting for opposing counsel to call me with a settlement counter-offer I wouldn't be in this thread, as I've tried to avoid these little "debates" for quite a while now on this board...

but your definition of atheism is my understanding of agnosticism. I could absolutely be wrong...but what you're calling atheism, I call agnosticism, and I think a lot of people do...or at least others I know who call themselves agnostic.

My understanding is that there is:

theism -- positive assertion of faith in a god or gods...

agnosticism -- neutral assertion..."I don't know...I'm not sure.."

atheism -- assertion that there is no god


Not asking for sake of argument...but for sake of understanding..and sharing my view.

 

Yeah because otherwise this place is a peaceful place of open-minded discussion.

 

No, anyone with a 5th grade education should understand tides.

"explan" yourself.

 

Linguistically you are correct since "a" is used as a prefix meaning not or without, so "atheism" can be defined as "without God".

 

Ok, thanks.

I have friends who claim to be agnostic who are adamant that they are not atheists. I think there are people who post here who feel the same way.

 

Max, this settlement wouldn't have any relationship with Prosperity Bank would it? Crazy coincidence if so....

 

Ha! No, it wouldn't. I've represented banks in my career, but never Prosperity. That would be hiliarous, though.

 

Yeah, my attorney is waiting on a settlement offer from the prosperity bank attorney as we speak for a relatives estate. lol

 

That's awesome. Good luck to you!

 

Yeah it just all depends. If theism means "belief in a God" then atheism can mean "non-belief in a God." Non-belief meaning simply still awaiting proof; non-belief does not mean a belief in the opposite of the original belief.* So I think what Akim is saying could be correct.

But then if you use the root word atheos, which literally meant no God, then he would be mistaken. I think.

*What?

 

Ignorance: Lack of knowledge or information: "he acted in ignorance of basic procedures".

So yes I do call it ignorance, because that's what it is. A lack of knowledge, which ALL people have. Just like I said in my post.

You're arguing with the wrong person here, becuase there isn't one to be had with what I said. Other then the Respect part.

 

Yeah, I'm less concerned with breaking down the word objectively than I am understanding subjectively what someone means when they actually use it in a sentence.

An agnostic (as I define it) is still an agnostic (as I define it) by any other name.