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Harden = Gilbert Arenas 2.0?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Sydeffect, Dec 22, 2012.

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  1. Sydeffect

    Sydeffect Member

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    Am I the only one who sees a lot of similarities in their respective game?

    Comparisons:
    -Both great 3 point shooters
    -They both attack the basket a lot
    -They both get a lot of free throw attempts per game.
    -Both have OK mid range games
    -Average defenders

    Gilbert Arenas stats at 23:
    PPG: 25.5
    APG: 5.1
    RPG: 4.7
    FTA: 8.0
    FT%: 81.4%
    FG%: 43.1%
    3PT%: 36.5%

    Harden at 23:
    PPG: 25.4
    APG: 5.3
    RPG: 4.5
    FTA: 9.2
    FT%: 86%
    FG%: 43.6%
    3PT%: 34.1%
     
    #1 Sydeffect, Dec 22, 2012
  2. iconoclastic

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    Harden is already a better player than Arenas ever was.
     
    #2 iconoclastic, Dec 22, 2012
  3. cbk41

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    Agent 0 used to be a top 3 player in the NBA. But he could never get to the like like Harden can. That in of itself will help Harden become a better player. Also, inb4 locker room.
     
    #3 cbk41, Dec 22, 2012
  4. Sydeffect

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    Pre-injury Arenas? They are the very best the same level player..
     
    #4 Sydeffect, Dec 22, 2012
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    very bold
     
    #5 trowa2, Dec 22, 2012
  6. ch0c0b0fr34k

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    They're comparable players at the same age. Harden is much more steady in his play though. He's really found his groove on this team, I never thought the Arenas-led teams meshed too well.
     
    #6 ch0c0b0fr34k, Dec 22, 2012
  7. Carl Herrera

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    They are both among the very best black shooting guards in recent NBA history.
     
    #7 Carl Herrera, Dec 22, 2012
  8. BigMaloe

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    Sydeffect is the new Sigmund???
     
    #8 BigMaloe, Dec 22, 2012
  9. OremLK

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    The most important statistic (career numbers):

    True Shooting Percentage
    Harden: .603
    Arenas: .547
     
    #9 OremLK, Dec 22, 2012
  10. Sydeffect

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    But I'm not trolling tho
     
    #10 Sydeffect, Dec 22, 2012
  11. nbalopez23

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    I doubt James Harden owns guns to mess up his career and reputation :grin:
     
    #11 nbalopez23, Dec 22, 2012
  12. nomangame

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    No no no....Harden is definitely of a different calibre compared to Arenas.

    And we don't wanna have another:

    1) NBA player who wasted away his talent
    2)Guy who pretty much screwed his life up
     
    #12 nomangame, Dec 23, 2012
  13. Sydeffect

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    I'm just comparing their style of game.
     
    #13 Sydeffect, Dec 23, 2012
  14. RocketsRed14

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    Unlike Sigmund, sad effect is a good poster with some basketball knowledge.
     
    #14 RocketsRed14, Dec 23, 2012
  15. rolyat93

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    You make some sense, but I really don't want Harden to be compared to Gilly.
     
    #15 rolyat93, Dec 23, 2012
  16. T FOR 3!!!

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    People here have the memory of squirrels. Arenas battled Lebron in the playoffs for several years and was a BEAST!! I see the similarities... I just hope the off-court distractions won't be an issue...
     
    #16 T FOR 3!!!, Dec 23, 2012
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  17. Nook

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    Harden was a shooting guard stuck in a point guards body... That is not the case with Harden.
     
    #17 Nook, Dec 23, 2012
  18. Mr Chuck Norris

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    ^Yeah I bet
     
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  19. MambaJoe

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    You mean Gilbert is a SG stuck in a PG body?
     
    #19 MambaJoe, Dec 23, 2012
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    Arena pre-injury was REALLY, REALLY good on offense. Defensively those Bullets were a mess, so I don't know how he'd have fared in a better team setting. In addition, Harden is taking 2 less shots per game to reach Arenas' PPG total in the OP post, which makes him better. In the NBA, Points-per-possession is slightly higher than 1. So compared to Arenas, Harden generates an extra 2 points.
     
    #20 meh, Dec 23, 2012
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