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Daryl Morey's love letter to Lin in the "Economist"

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This may have already been posted (if so, merge), but it explains "Moreyball" in a very relevant sense— the case for Jeremy Lin.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/gametheory/2012/04/predicting-performance-basketball

Predicting performance in basketball
The elephant on the court
Apr 20th 2012, 3:42 by Daryl Morey | HOUSTON

The invited guest author is the general manager of the Houston Rockets. He can be reached on Twitter at @dmorey.

IN A famous detective story by Edgar Allan Poe, “The Purloined Letter”, a minister steals a letter containing compromising information from a woman and uses it to blackmail her. The police scour every corner of his hotel room in search of the document: they check behind the wallpaper, under the carpets, and even examine the tables and chairs with microscopes, all to no avail. Defeated, they summon C. Auguste Dupin, an amateur detective, to help them with the case. Mr Dupin surmises that the minister would try to outwit the police by leaving the letter in plain sight. He duly spots it tucked into a card rack, delivers it to the authorities, and collects a reward of 50,000 francs.

According to a series of news reports, the C. Auguste Dupin of the National Basketball Association (NBA) this year is Ed Weiland, a driver for Federal Express in Bend, Oregon. The personnel experts of all 30 NBA teams poke, prod, and spend millions of dollars attempting to find the best players in the league’s annual draft of amateur players. But in 2010 not one of them was able to identify Jeremy Lin of Harvard as a future professional star. He went undrafted, and was later ignored as a free agent by virtually every NBA team.

Meanwhile, Mr Weiland, who contributes to the HoopsAnalyst.com website, singled out Mr Lin from among the 5,000 or so players at Division I colleges, and wrote that his statistics suggested he had a good chance to succeed in the NBA. Once “Linsanity” erupted on both sides of the Pacific following Mr Lin’s incandescent start for the New York Knicks, Mr Weiland became a minor celebrity. The story of the hidden genius giving the experts their comeuppance is just as compelling today as it was when Poe wrote it in 1844—right?

Not so fast. It is true that Mr Lin has turned out to be a very good player. But Mr Weiland’s seemingly clairvoyant forecast is a red herring. In fact, no one could have predicted the level of play Mr Lin has attained—at least not without mistakenly foreseeing similar achievements for dozens of other players as well. Rather than life imitating Poe’s art, what Mr Lin’s story really demonstrates is the old Niels Bohr adage: prediction is difficult, especially about the future.

As in many other professional sports, the basketball world today can be divided between a new wave of objective statistical techniques and traditional methods of visual observation. Both schools of thought, however, rely on historical examples in order to produce their predictions.

Looking to the past is indisputably the best way to shift the odds in a forecaster’s favour. However, in order for it to be successful, the historical cases it is based on need to be reasonably comparable to the case in question. You would be rightly sceptical of someone who attempted to predict height from shoe size for women based on a sample of men.

Similarly, Mr Lin’s story is extremely unusual. There have been precious few point guards in the NBA who, like Mr Lin, were not recruited by college basketball teams while in high school, played against weak competition while in college, and played a position other than point guard for most of their college careers. When comparables are hard to come by, the flaws in a historically-based method are laid bare.

Defenders of the statistical approach will insist that there was ample quantitative evidence of Mr Lin’s potential. As Mr Weiland noted, he was a dominant guard at Harvard. The models used by teams and amateur analysts alike to predict how college players will fare as professionals invariably identified him as a strong NBA player.

However, those models suffer from an inescapable selection bias: they are based only on the roughly 2% of college players who went on to play in the NBA. As a result, they are all but useless when applied to the broader pool of all college players. In the 2010 draft alone, there were more than 20 other players who had faced relatively weak competition whose statistical probability of NBA success was similar to Mr Lin’s.

Take, say, Josh Slater, a guard from Lipscomb University who is the same height (six feet, three inches or 1.91 metres) as Mr Lin. Mr Slater averaged 17 points, five rebounds, five assists, and two steals per game—a dead ringer for Mr Lin’s 16 points, four rebounds, five assists, and two steals per game. Just as Mr Lin put up 30 points, nine rebounds and three assists against Connecticut, a powerhouse team, Mr Slater posted 21 points, nine rebounds and four assists versus North Carolina, another elite basketball school. Was Mr Slater, and all the other college players like him, unjustly passed over as well? Could your favourite NBA team go on a magical playoff run by inserting him in their starting lineup?

Of course not, counter advocates of the traditionalist camp. Mr Lin and Mr Slater might look the same in a spreadsheet, but they couldn’t look more different on the court. All one had to do, they claim, was watch Mr Lin play—and shame on those teams like the Golden State Warriors, Dallas Mavericks and my own Houston Rockets, who had him in their organisation and failed to recognise his brilliance.

Neither argument is completely wrong. Maybe Mr Slater could succeed in the NBA, and maybe Mr Lin should have been given playing time sooner. But the structure of professional basketball makes it impossible for teams to give a chance to every prospect who shows some potential.

For example, Major League Baseball (MLB) drafts some 1,500 players a year. Once selected, they must work their way up four levels of minor-league teams before joining the parent club. This gives MLB organisations the incentives of salmon, which spawn scores of young far upriver in hopes that a handful make the treacherous journey all the way back to sea. Each team can invest in hundreds of prospects and see which pan out, needing only a few winners that “hit it big” to make up for all the failures.

In contrast, NBA teams cannot hold the rights to anyone beyond the 15 players on their active roster. That makes them more like elephant mothers, who give birth to very few babies and have to gestate them for almost two years. With limited investment opportunities, teams are forced to choose only the players with the greatest likelihood of success, and then give them a long-term contract and a potential path to significant playing time. And no one could have called Mr Lin a high-probability prospect. In the end, he only got his break after he had polished his game for a year in the NBA Development League (“D-League”), basketball’s minor league, and when a series of injuries on the Knicks created an opening at his position.

The NBA has made some movement towards a model more like baseball’s. It launched the D-League a decade ago, and is now trying to promote exclusive relationships between NBA and D-League clubs. In fact, in 2009 the Rockets became the first NBA team to pair up formally with a D-League counterpart in a baseball-like hybrid-owner relationship, when we entered a partnership with the Rio Grande Valley Vipers. Other NBA clubs, such as the San Antonio Spurs, have chosen outright ownership of a D-League team. Hopefully, in the long run, this will allow teams to provide opportunities to more prospects than they can now. Nonetheless, the elephant-mother model will remain entrenched for at least the next few years, since NBA teams can still hold a maximum of 15 players, regardless of whether they are affiliated with a D-League club or not.

Mr Lin has received so much attention because he embodies the reason we love sports: every time you watch, something amazing might happen that no one anticipates. He is an outlier and an underdog whose hard work is paying off at last. Just don’t tell me that anyone—even C. Auguste Dupin—could have predicted it.
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#1 Nachobar, Jul 16, 2012

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entertaining read. thanks for posting.

#2 bford, Jul 16, 2012
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Long, but it explains a lot of things. I think each NBA team should have an affiliate in the D-league. Also they should increase the active roster number from 15 to 20.

#3 MONON, Jul 16, 2012
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Is Morey British?

#4 theDude, Jul 16, 2012
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Great read, though it sounds a bit defensive on Morey's part.

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MONON said: ↑

Long, but it explains a lot of things. I think each NBA team should have an affiliate in the D-league. Also they should increase the active roster number from 15 to 20.
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It doesn't really help to change the active roster from 15 to 20. They need to move to the same concept as baseball. There should be a 15-man "active roster" and a 30-man roster. The 15 who aren't on the active roster play in the D-League but are still paid NBA salaries (which don't count against the cap). Can't be sent down to the D-League after you have a certain # of years NBA experience.

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Also, that's the real problem with the D-League. It shouldn't be a showcase league where free agents try to make it onto NBA rosters. It should only be guys under contract with specific NBA teams.

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This article is Morey's excuse of letting Lin go last year. He had the chance to watch Lin closely and he knew Lin's stats in college..........he just missed it.

#8 rayrocket, Jul 16, 2012
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He is stating how analytics only gets you a part of the way there. The traditional watching a kid play is still important when evaluating talent.

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This may need to be translated into an audio book or cliff notes version for some of the new wave of clutchfans posters . . .

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Someone needs to forward this to DD.

Just because you have talent doesn't mean you're always going to be in prime position to get a chance at the top level. Lin fell into a great opportunity when the Knicks lost ALL their PGs on the roster...

If that hadn't have been the case he would have been cut a day or 2 later and made his way back to the D-League... and for someone to say "WELL, THEY SHOULDA SAW THAT COMING!" is ridiculous, you didn't, and the team actually brought him in because they saw something in him.

I always root for the underdog, and if Lin becomes close to all-star level he would be one of the biggest and best underdog stories of all time.

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rayrocket said: ↑

This article is Morey's excuse of letting Lin go last year. He had the chance to watch Lin closely and he knew Lin's stats in college..........he just missed it.
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It actually shows to his credit LOL:

The elephant on the court
Apr 20th 2012, 3:42 by Daryl Morey | HOUSTON

It's hard to always hit on these type of guys. If the Knicks wouldn't have lost all their options at PG they would have been in the same boat and either some other team would have discovered Lin, or he would remain an unknown in the basketball world.

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Morey's new nickname: Elephant Mother.

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FLASH21 said: ↑

Someone needs to forward this to DD.

Just because you have talent doesn't mean you're always going to be in prime position to get a chance at the top level. Lin fell into a great opportunity when the Knicks lost ALL their PGs on the roster...

If that hadn't have been the case he would have been cut a day or 2 later and made his way back to the D-League... and for someone to say "WELL, THEY SHOULDA SAW THAT COMING!" is ridiculous, you didn't, and the team actually brought him in because they saw something in him.

I always root for the underdog, and if Lin becomes close to all-star level he would be one of the biggest and best underdog stories of all time.
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In fact, we should be thankful that we DID cut Lin, other wise, imagine what would have happened if we had kept him:

He wouldn't have received any playing time -you can't just assume Lowry gets hurt/sick. Never becomes a star, gets cut, coaches junior high hoops, no Linsanity, no great story, no money, nothing.

Not only THAT, but by cutting a guaranteed-salary guy like Flynn, then later on you don't get Camby, and then you don't get the big tade and picks from the Knicks, which could very well mean we wouldn't end up with DH12.

So in point of fact, it could be that cutting Lin may end up being the best possible thing which could have happened, depending on how it all plays out.

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Thanks! Economist is my style

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Is Morey British?
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The Economist is.

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Great read, though it sounds a bit defensive on Morey's part.
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I agree. But then he's probably heard "How the hell did you miss Jeremy Lin's potential, Mr. Stats?!?" a few thousand times in the last 6 months.

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zcity said: ↑

This may need to be translated into an audio book or cliff notes version for some of the new wave of clutchfans posters . . .
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be nice.......lol

Kids do the darnest things.

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Nero said: ↑

In fact, we should be thankful that we DID cut Lin, other wise, imagine what would have happened if we had kept him:

He wouldn't have received any playing time -you can't just assume Lowry gets hurt/sick. Never becomes a star, gets cut, coaches junior high hoops, no Linsanity, no great story, no money, nothing.

Not only THAT, but by cutting a guaranteed-salary guy like Flynn, then later on you don't get Camby, and then you don't get the big tade and picks from the Knicks, which could very well mean we wouldn't end up with DH12.

So in point of fact, it could be that cutting Lin may end up being the best possible thing which could have happened, depending on how it all plays out.

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Great perspective Nero. Agree 100%. Plus would Linsanity have been Linsanity in Houston, or was it because he had that run in New York on a star studded team that he became who he became.

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rayrocket said: ↑

This article is Morey's excuse of letting Lin go last year. He had the chance to watch Lin closely and he knew Lin's stats in college..........he just missed it.
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Actually his excuse was Dalembert came calling, we needed a center and Lin was the 4rth guard on team and the only one with an unguaranteed contract (the other dude was maing 3M).

People who always the Rox missed out on Lin don't get it. We had no choice but to let him go, unless at the time you can safely say the undrafted 4rth pg was worth 3M and former lottery pick, or worth missing out on the C spot you need so badly.

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