Random Houston Rockets Trade Ideas - 2010-11

Has Asik all of a sudden become a star?

 

Very positive play off minutes. Proved very compitent.

As a fan base who has Hasheem thabeet and a new coach, we are largely grasping at straws.

Coooooome on 8th seed!

 

Forget Asik and having to give up Budinger I found a trade idea from a guy who is supposedly looking out for the Pacer's best interest that makes me wish he was the GM:
Lee, Hill and 23rd pick for Granger, Rush, and the 15th.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/722977-indiana-pacers-five-draft-day-moves-the-pacers-can-make-to-get-better#/articles/722977-indiana-pacers-five-draft-day-moves-the-pacers-can-make-to-get-better/page/2
I know this is from bleacherreport, but I am inserting this as a trade idea that I just wish was a rumor not as an acutal rumor or news or anything of that sort.

 

Pacers would hang up phone.

 

I have no doubt of that, maybe Pacers fans are just a different breed of folk than Bulls fans...

 

Either that or they are Rockets fans.:grin:

 

Asik is ok,but I would not give up Lee for him. Chase has his limitations,but is better than Asik too.

 

I was okay with your first statement...

 

Just some thoughts....

L.Scola & B.Miller to Clevlanad for B.Davis(bitter pill) & the 4th pick
~ why they do it ~ Clean up their cap and Scola & A.Varejao would really help out a young point gaurd ( Scola is as good as most in this draft )


Three way Trade

Houston
out - K.Martin / J.Hill / C. Bud / T.Williams / 14th Pick
in - M.Beasley / W.Johnson / E.Turner

Minnisota
out - M.Beasly / W.Jonson / A.Randolph
in - K.Martin / J.Hill / C.Bud
~ why they do it ~ They can use their 2nd pick ( K.Martin / K.Love, too...)

Pilly
out - E.Turner
in - T.Williams / A.Randolph / 14th Pick
~ why they do it ~ They get a lot of return when/if one or more of the three pans out - vs - E.Turners "OK" year this year...


The Rockets would suck for a year or two ( Just in time for next years draft )....

BUT then look out


Give time; time

 

Asik is a 10/10/2 player given a few years of seasoning, bringing a defensive presence at or above Tyson Chandler's level. Aside from a superstar, that is exactly what this team needs. While I like Lee and think he can start for a contender(he already has), trading small for big with about equal talent is a no brainer. That is probably why Chicago is asking for more on top. Chase Budinger shouldn't even be in the same sentence.

I can see Morey going after someone more proven like Asik instead of the centers in the draft who are much bigger risks. And then trading up a few spots for a SF instead.

Lowry/Dragic
Martin
Kwahi Leonard or Jan Vesley/Budinger
Scola/Patterson
Asik/Hayes

While still lacking that superstar to really contend, that is a lineup with a mix of youth/potential/experience that I can definitely get behind. They won't ever be bad enough to land a high pick, and I am not sure how they will land a superstar any other way, but I won't lie it will be fun gunning for homecourt with youngsters like that.

 

I hope we get rid of budinger so we don't have to hear Matt bullard ride his jock anymore!

 

1. Why would Philly take back T-Will?
2. If A. Randolph is involved in this trade, why do the Rockets not take him?
3. Minny's giving up too much for what they get.

 

1-I think we got T.williams from New Jersey - I may be wrong...

2-A.Randolph is a part of the reason Philly does the deal... he can help their front court... ( Rockets really don't need him - P.Patterson )

3-Minny Replaces:
M.Beasley - 2nd Pick (giving him some playing time,too) or C.Bud ( for spacing)
W.Johnson - K.MARTIN & C.Bud
A.Randoph - J.Hill

K.Love / K. Martin / 2nd Pick

Minny is a much better team after this trade
~ funny I was going to give Minny's late 1st rounder to Philly not thinking they gave enough ~

 

From that thread of that website, I think it was mentioned that Chicago was counteroffering Asik, Korver, #30, Lucas for Lee, Budinger, Hill, future 1st.

(Our offer, as posted elsewhere, being: Asik, Korver, #28, #30 for Lee, Hill, and a future first.)

Which I wouldn't do. But maybe the two sides are just circling each other, seeing where the other will budge.

That insider asked the moderator to close down the thread. I'm paraphrasing, but I think he got nervous when the thread turned into a jillion pages. Suddenly it became very visible.

 

maybe there is some truth behind it....

 

"I'm not going to throw any of their players under the bus, but one of the main players who was a big part of our team, his attitude was really, really bad -- I'm pretty sure you can figure out who that guy is," he said before confirming that he was speaking of then-rookie forward-center DeMarcus Cousins. "Tyreke [Evans] had a pretty good attitude. His work ethic wasn't great, but he's a good young player. I believed in him completely. I just don't think the coaches did enough to prepare us to win games."

Kings don't need more young talent, they need good character/hard working veterans to show kids the way. Scola could be that 4 for Demarcus Cousins.

Luis Scola + Brad Miller (dump contract) for #7 pick

This trade would allow us to get younger and have a lot more cap space flexibility moving forward (~12 mil/yr).

 

We may have to add Dragic and our #14 for Beno's contract and Thompson for that to have a chance. Still in our favor though

 

You do realize that the timberpuppies already have the 2nd pick.

They aren't gaining anything replacing a lost asset with another asset they already own the rights to.

 

Yes, I see your thought, the T-Wolfs have the 2nd pick IF they pick up D.Williams ( maybe an ALL-STAR) he will need playing time and M.Beasley plays at that spot - BUT -
M.Beasley alone is not worth K.Martin in a trade....
M.Beasley and W.Johnson are worth more then just K.Martin in a trade....

With that said the T-Wolf's will not miss (should move) M.Beasley - D.Williams will man (replace)the small forward spot for them... and could pick up what they are missing in K.Martin SCORING - C.Bud SCORING - J.Hill 4/5 a backup player
for a back-up player in W.Johnson, "non-needed" M.Beasley and a "spare part" in A.Randolph playing behind K.Love will soon be an issue...

D.Williams >>> M.Beasley
K.Martin>>>>> W.Johnson
C.Bud & J.Hill > A.Randolph

 

The wolves are not going to allow the rockets the heavy handed side of a trade just because they (the wolves) have the 2nd pick already.