[War] Trump declares war on Iran for regime change

the r****d in Chief wants the allies he’s ostracized to go send ships to the Strait of Hormuz to get blown up and have their people die over a stupid war they had no part in starting or have no involvement with

this country is fcked beyond repair…I don’t think we can recover from the damage this low IQ, smooth brain, crayon eating regime has done

all these countries will never trust us again because they have no idea when we’ll elect another republican administration and be right back to the stupidity, fckery, and betrayal

 

way too many dumbass people in this country or people who refuse to admit and accept that they were wrong…they’d rather go down with the Titanic defending every action of this regime than to admit they made a mistake

look at all the sh*t you have to defend if you’re a republican…

you have to sit there and pretend like the tariffs make sense and that prices haven’t skyrocketed as your CC is getting declined at the register and there’s tumbleweeds in your checking and savings account

you have to sit there and act like republicans didn’t just cause you to lose healthcare

you have to sit there and act like Trump isn’t mentioned thousands of times in the Epstein Files and this isn’t the most blatant coverup in American history

you have to sit there and act like the Trump regime isn’t scamming you and enriching themselves like never before…you have to act like blatant corruption isn’t happening right before your eyes

you have to sit there and approve yet another war with the Middle East

Is the racism and hatred of others really worth it? Because that’s all this regime is offering. You’re stomach is grumbling, you can’t afford gas, and you’ve lost your healthcare, but hey, your daddy Trump posted a video of the Obamas as apes and is having ICE harass and deport the Mexican landscaper or guy working at the carwash with 2 kids in school. That’s winning to you? How sad

 

I bet in the next week Trump just straight up orders US troops and naval vessels to leave the region and declares victory. Leaving a mess for the Arab nations and Israel to deal with for years.

Irans leadership will be more resolved and seemingly come out of this feeling like they won and will quietly vow revenge after they recover. Terrorism will continue to grow in the US with a weakened FBI. Future presidents will have a cluster F to deal with.

However in the short term I think Trumps base will forget and he won’t lose virtually any polling support. This will be spun as “another Venezuela” and his ignorant cult supporters will make up rationale that higher gas prices are worth while to have “energy independence”.

That’s my prediction here. Trump is a fool but he does have survival instincts, and would caution folks thinking he can’t politically survive this with how fcking ignorant half of our country is and how powerful the right wing propaganda is in the US.

 

It’s really amazing. Somehow it’s ok to pay for Israel’s socialism for their citizens, but not for our own?

 

This sums it up.

 

The "logical" next step for Trump is to put boots on the ground in Iran near the Strait of Hormuz and open up global shipping.

Worst. President. Ever.

 

Yeah he either has to ramp up with boots on the ground, I guess along the coast lines when the Iranians are attacking ships, or (as I predict) he orders the US naval vessels out of the area, and declares victory leaving the Arab nations, and Israel to deal with the mess he created.

So let's talk about what "boots on the ground" means in terms of Trump really JUST being concerned with opening the Strait and getting oil production back up, and running.

A few thoughts:

-While the strait is only 20 miles wide, you have to man or have a ground force presence who can quickly reach ports which have the proximity to launch attacks.
-One of the areas/cities with direct access to the Strait is the province of Messen
-Messen has 1.7 MILLION Iranians
-That is three times the size of Minneapolis
-ICE has a budget the size of the Marines
-ICE couldn't handle Minneapolis
- I count at least 4 major city/provinces that have direct access to the strait just in the portion that is directly across from Dubai
-295K troops were sent to Iraq in 2003.
-Taking and securing JUST the region around the Strait would be similar in population size to taking Baghad but waaayyyyy more spread out.

It's anyone's guess, but I assume that in order to cover this much territory with ground troops that can operate JUST in this region, I'm guessing you probably need at least 400,000 troops. Maybe 100K around the Bazaar area, 100K around Messen, 100K around Bandar Abbas (probably have to stay off the coast or in a neighboring small town), and you need basically an armada of air, and naval assets operation on the friendly side near Dubai and Abu Dhabi. 100k troops deployed to support that region seems kind of light TBH.

And I'm JUST looking at the sole mission of trying to secure the region around the Strait of Hormuz. I'm assuming attacks can be launched far more inland.

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So what's more likely.... Trump sends 400K+ troops to the region as a "security force" just simply to open the Straight, or that he just figures its too complex, and expensive, and instead declares victory, and leaves the region in disarray??

 

Nothing logical about this administration, but there is the consistency of a feral mind that leads to believing (not thinking) just one more surge of troops will turn the war. After all, the media are all talking about Hormuz so if Hormuz goes away, so does any criticism and the US wins bigly and my poll numbers go up, right?



If this is true, it is the stupidest presidential rationale for bad actions ever. It wasn't war that got W to 80%. It was 9/11, an attack on us. After that and especially when the Iraq War started, his numbers declined until the chef's kiss of New Orleans drowning among incompetence put them in the absolute toilet.

Since he was elected again and started a foreign affairs policy of quickly pissing away diplomatic and economic capital built over decades, I've thought if the world gets their act together, we are screwed. Now, it's happening.

 

Nothing is too complex for Trump. He has the best genes and he's really smart. Health care? Easy. Economics? Easy. War? Easy. Cognitive tests? Easy. Maybe not for those losers like Lincoln and FDR and even Washington, but for Trump, it's all easy. Until it's not and he sits down to a fine lunch of TACOs.

 

Trump is almost entirely transactional. No one is paying Trump or the US to fight this war with Iran. This is on Trump's own dime. I can't see Trump paying for this war much longer.

Thus, Trump Always Chicken Out.

Trump does have some zero IQ advisors who might convince him that he has no other choice but to "send in the Marines". Hopefully Trump's political instincts kick in and he turns tail and runs.

 

Our Treasury Secretary, one of the stupidest members of this administration--and that is a very tight race:

'“We are seeing more and more of the fuel ships start to go through. The Iranian ships have been getting out already, and we’ve let that happen to supply the rest of the world."

So, we are letting Iranian ships go through the Strait and letting them sell their oil? This is yet another thing that doesn't make sense about this war.

 

Breaking news. The Ayatollah’s son might be gay. This is real and not fake news. Baghdad Bob faints twice.

 

The sad part is that the White Nationalism ideology driving Trump requires spewing lies and conspiracies riddled with hate, and packed with flat out lies to incite folks with fake fears, to bring them on to support him. This indepth article below is not something they want to read. Denial of truth means realizing Trump, and guys like him are wrong. They would have believed Hitler too, even if it took shoving the Jewish women and children they once considered friends into an ice cold river to drown the "dogs" and "animals" Hitler told them they were. Now, you have folks defending war crimes, denying genocide, and supporting bombing and killing innocent women and children. It's sick.

The White Nationalism at the Heart of Trump’s Foreign Policy

Donald Trump's anti-immigrant sentiments animate his approach to foreign policy, echoing white nationalist conspiracy theories.

https://inkstickmedia.com/the-white-nationalism-at-the-heart-of-trumps-foreign-policy/

 

Can't get wartime presidential ratings without declaring war

Guess he's getting excursion ratings instead.

 

Associated Press:

Two weeks into war with Iran, Trump has been knocked back on his political heels

In the two weeks since the U.S. and Israel launched strikes on Iran, President Donald Trump increasingly has been knocked on his political heels.

He’s grown more agitated with news coverage and has failed to find a way to explain why he started the war — or how he will end it — that resonates with a public concerned by American deaths in the conflict, surging oil prices and dropping financial markets. Even some of his supporters are questioning his plan and his overall poll numbers are declining.

Meanwhile, Moscow is getting a boost from the war’s early days after Trump eased sanctions on some Russian oil shipments. That, combined with rising oil prices, undercut the yearslong push to crimp President Vladimir Putin’s ability to wage war in Ukraine.

Then there are Democrats, who were left reeling after Trump won the 2024 election. With control of Congress at stake in November’s midterms, the party has come together to oppose Trump’s Iran policy and point to the economic turmoil as proof that Republicans haven’t kept their promises to bring down everyday costs.​

 

Obama would start a war with Iran to boost his poll numbers.

 

You woke shiitheads were trying to convince people that braindead Biden was competent. All of your posts in here are completely useless garbage.

 

Yep, and if I had to make a parlay bet, I suspect that within a couple weeks, you'll see Trump scapegoat two people in general: Marco Rubio and Lindsay Graham. Lady Lindsay being the big one I think he'll try to turn on. Pete Kegseth is another potential person he'll turn on.

Trump is ALWAYS the victim, and that's partially why he's able to fool ignorant Americans anytime he gets in a bind.

The big question though which is more important to Trump than anything is Jared Kushner, and the Trump bros who are heavily invested in the gulf states. Will there be something here that Trump has invested that he sees as too valuable to him personally where he just cannot personally disentangle himself from the gulf states??? That's the big question. Otherwise I think he already would have been out.