Right... He has some mistakes, like all GMs but they aren't major and don't impact the future all that much. Our books look pretty good going out into the future.
you got to learn how to chill man. KD wanted to be here that's why Stone was able to trade for him. I'm not even arguing with you and I don't know why you are so defensive right off the bat lol
Amusing listening to the casuals complain about Stone...... I find the casuals never adjusted their expectations once FVV went out for the season.
This is a forum.... you called Stone subpar.... and don't seem interested in defending your comment. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KD wouldn't want to be here if Stone hadn't had a roster that appealed to him.... plus the assets and contracts to make it work.
Yes you cant argue with me cuz when you actually use facts and logic you realise you have no argument. So what if KD wanted to be here what we gave up for him is nothing he wanted to be in PHX too look what they gave up to get him. "I dont wanna listen wah wah wah Fire stone wah wah wah wah"
Stone is honestly getting cucked by Ime. Have you seen Reed as the starting pg? We had the pg all along but Ime is the one playing the wrong guys and Stone is getting blamed for it. Not to mention guys like JD Davison or Clint Capela who have been playing well when given mins but always get restricted or not even played.
being in a forum doesn't mean you have to be an ass though. True, I agree that Stone did some great moves to set us up for the future but since there's no guarantee that those future picks will be amazing and with Durant aging, I don't think a GM who is supposed to be capitalizing on the momentum we had from last season is allowed to say "maybe this is not our year" even before the playoffs begin. I don't think you'll hear Sam Presti, Brian Wright (still debatable until we see them actually go deep in this year's playoffs), Brad Stevens, Koby Altman or even Pat Riley say that out loud. There were a lot of good pieces and moves we could have made and probably get rid of DFS contract that is currently a net negative but for some reason, we just gave up essentially on fixing this season and rolling with whatever we have. We can all agree to disagree but until we actually have a team that Stone built that would go deep in the playoffs, he would always be subpar.
Y'all want an example of bad GM? How about Daryl Morey who signed Embiid and Paul George to 5 yr maxes? At least DFS ans FVV gone by end of next year, how about 5 yr maxes for Embiid and PG? Oh and just "sold high" on McCain by trading him to OKC for our FRP and 2 seconds? Meanwhile Mc Cain just became fastest OKC bench player to score 100 pts. Oh and they will also give their pick to OKC next year. Morey is like an OKC sleeper agent all he does is make OKC stronger. And I remember a lot of posters think Morey is a great GM lmao. Here you are complaining about Stone when Morey is destroying Sixers.
That's a Stone hire though. If he knows he is getting nothing out of Ime, he still holds the cards and should be able to do something about it right?
Ime is a Fertita hire. Ime got extended to a 6 yr deal he has more power and influence than Stone thats why FVV got that 25M deal when Stone wont even pay Tari that kind of money.
But you called Stone subpar already so is SAS subpar? Its a yes or no question You can see here the bias inherent in your posts thats why you dont wanna argue because reality is it doesnt make any sense when you actually try to be objective about it. Nobody objective will use deep playoff runs as the metric for being subpar or not for a GM except haters. To be Subpar means below standard so are you saying the average nba team goes on deep playoff runs? lol
Ime was a great hire for his first stint of building foundation and culture so that hire is a success. That 6 yr extension is not on Stone since his own contract isnt even that long. Btw the Rox arent even that bad. The reality is any other team besides OKC have little chance to win a title so other than "the best" and Spurs who got gifted Wemby Rox are next in line with the 3rd seed. This is first year we got KD, got massive injuries and first time Ime Udoka feeling the heat on coaching. Next year rockets will be much improved esp if Udoka hires better assistants who can help him on offense. In the West other than OKC and Spurs who are better positioned than the Rockets? Even Nuggets suck now that their non Jokic members are slowing down.
Fair. Development isn't always linear and young teams (which we are) do struggle with winning consistency. I think many posters just got their expectations too high and never changed them, even when FVV went out. Stone said what he said after losing two key rotation players for the year so I don't mind the honesty. While there is no guarantees for the future.... putting the team in a good position with our cap space and future picks is the best possible move you can make. I think it was smart not using any resources for this season as we are building something hopefully greater than Durant's remaining two years on his contract. Going from abysmal tanking to competitive isn't the mark of a subpar GM in MO.
The expectations of losing a far below average starting point guard? Reed sheppard is straight up better than what fvv has ever been for the rockets. And im not particularly crazy about reed either There were about 5 guards available at the deadline that are better or at least as good as fvv
let's put it in perspective: - Spurs haven't been to the playoffs recently due to the rebuild hence the debatable context I added in my original message. So to answer your question: no they are not subpar with their current trajectory - Rockets surprised a lot of people last season when they shared to the media that their target is making the playoffs and ended up being number 2 seed. At the time, Stone looked liked a genius and we had high hopes that this season could be a big one but we fell short. This season, we regressed a bit due to injuries but what makes stone subpar with his decisioning and management is the following: * we needed a guard to help mitigate FVV's loss. Reed wasn't initially ready so we needed a solid backup * we needed to replace Dillon with a wing that would somehow help with spreading the floor and defending. We got DFS who they know is probably not going to pan out due to injuries but yet we signed him to a 12M contract. At the time, I thought it's a high risk move but should be a good trade chip if it doesn't work out by the trade deadline but no, we are sticking with him. * last year's flaw is that Ime and his coaching staff badly needs an offensive coordinator. We have been exposed in the playoffs and we do not have a consistent offense since last year. * extending players that don't actually play: Holiday, Tate, Unc * poison pill contract for Jabari. I don't know why we did it but that makes it much more difficult to move him if needed * returning BKN's 2026 pick when this draft is supposed to be one of the best
Wait so Spurs arent subpar when they havent been to the playoffs "because of their trajectory". But you called Stone subpar because the team which went to playoffs havent gone on a deep playoff run? What kind of perspective is that? Here let me show you the real perspective: * We are paying 55M for KD, 25M for FVV 38M for Sengun and 12M for Adams. These are the core pillars of the team and also make most of the capspace. * Amen and Reed make 10M. So all 3 of them with FVV make up 55M or around another max contract. The backup should come from one of Reed or Amen otherwise why are we paying 10M for each of them. *DFS injury was supposed to be a minor one. His initial timetable was ready by training camp. Is Stone a seer and can foresee DFS would fall behind schedule? lol *Jabari is a steal at 25M Stone wont move him because he is a great player for his deal.
