The offense last year was awful, pretending otherwise is having your head stuck up your own ass. The reason the Astros were good was the pitching, when it went to **** because of Espada's overuse the Astros faded.
Dude isn’t there enough ****ed up **** going on outside this message board for you to relax in here? Seems like if somebody wants something to be pissed off about, the state of the Astros offense on March 3rd might not be the best place to direct your energy. Let this place be a distraction from anger and negative drivel, not somewhere to spread it.
I just see the same trends with the Rockets, Texans, and Astros. None of them are good. If that is anger to you, then you are ****ing moron.I am not sure what is going on in your life that makes you have a lot of ****ed up **** going on outide sports, but my life is perfectly fine. I am realist, because we have all lived through the end of the Killer B's and the desolation that led to 2017-2023. We are now back to doing the same things we did after the WS in 2005.
Calling someone a ****ing moron and telling someone they have their head up their ass just seems unnecessary and doesn’t seem like it adds to anyone’s enjoyment of the site. But whatever, I just wish the ignore feature worked better.
Lmao not even close to the same things after the 2005 World Series. Drayton never spent cash like Crane. This team still has a ton of assets (Yordan, Pena, Brown, Paredes, Diaz, etc.) that could be traded for high level prospects, unlike the teams leading up to the tank years.
@utgrad97...did you see the UT guy hit the damn train during the college tourney at Daiken? This was a bomb. Bombadybomb.
Pence was the biggest asset they had. Pretty sure he was the only trade that netted them a top 100 prospect. The quality and quantity of prospects that Yordan and Brown would bring us alone would be far superior to what we got for Pence, Oswalt, etc.
Michael Bourn should have good value but Houston didn’t get squat for him. He was coming off back to back 4+ fwar seasons. Between just Hunter Brown and Jeremy Pena, Houston would likely be able to net enough top tier prospects (4-5 top 100 level talents) to catapult their farm into the top 5 of the league. The situation now vs 2006-2013 is not even close.
I wouldn’t “love” it because it would mean the Astros sucked this season. But of course I would be excited by the idea of Houston being proactive about reloading and would rather see that than see Houston descend into long term mediocrity.
An every year the Astros don't trade them instead of letting them inch closer to FA when they have no chance to extend them just means another wasted year of pushing off the coming rebuild.
For the "Oh no we suck again" crowd, here was the 2012 Opening Day Roster: 2012: C: Jason Castro, Chris Snyder; not terrible IF: Carlos Lee, Jose Altuve, Jed Lowrie, Chris Johnson, Marwin Gonzalez; this was pre-power Altuve and rookie Marwin, this is a terrible infield OF: Brian Bogusevic, Jordan Schafer, JD Martinez, Justin Maxwell, Jason Bourgeois, Travis Buck; this was AAAA JD Martinez, not the Tigers' stud, absolutely horrific outfield SP: Wandy Rodriguez, Bud Norris, Jordan Lyles, JA Happ, Lucas Harrell, Kyle Weiland; actually not terrible, but there are 5 #4/5 SP and nobody that realistically should have been starting a playoff game. RP: Brett Myers, David Carpenter, Wesley Wright, Wilton Lopez, Fernando Rodriguez, Rhiner Cruz, Fernando Abad; Myers was ok but otherwise brutal Those are the MLB assets Luhnow had to work with when starting his rebuild. The farm did have Jarred Cosart, Jon Singleton, George Springer, Domingo Santana, Delino DeShields, Mike Foltynewicz, and Jonathan Villar as high end prospects.
It took 12 years of abysmal baseball to get to 2017. So if you are fine with 15 years of a rebuild then yes we might win multiple WS again.
