Reed Sheppard is the Rockets’ Franchise Player™

Ok - now you are just arguing to be a semantics warrior - your view on what that is.......is your own, not mine.

So, I am not interested in engaging in world view discussions - that is a waste of time for both of us.

DD = Reed is a generational shooter - or will be once he settles in
Dobbie = Nope, not one.

Nothing more needs to be said.


DD

 

He is getting reps on the bench. Amen has been extremely disappointing for me this year but I rather invest in him than Reed cuz his ceiling is higher.

 

"A "generational talent" is an exceptionally rare individual whose skills, impact, and influence in their field—such as sports, music, or business—are so profound that they appear only once in a generation (roughly every 20–25 years). They redefine, elevate, or set new standards for their profession, often possessing unique physical or mental attributes that distinguish them from their peers"

Google definition, not mine. You don't get to assign different meanings to terms, it's intellectual dishonesty.

 

So if you look at Ray, he went 39/36.4/35.6 his 1st 3 seasons before year 4 where he really took off (his age 24 season). Reggie shot a good % starting his 2nd season (age 23) but he was super low volume, he didn't eclipse 5 attempts per 36 till he was 27. Reed is at 9.1 attempts per 36, that's a solid number. Of course i'd like that to be higher but it's very good. I think when he's 25 or so Reed can be a 10-12 per 36 attempts and shoot around 42%. I don't think he'll be curry (easily the best ever, one of one) but he can be as good as anyone else ever.

 

Like I say specific to the era. Reed didn't grow up in the 90's, the benchmark is higher for generational now. And Reed's currently shot 33 and 38% How is he generational when he's the 50th best 3pt shooter in the league? Seriously, make the argument? This season currently 50th, last season worse than 174th because that's as far as bbreference will show me and he aint on there. That aint generational man, it just ****ing isn't at all.

 

thats low iq to me. Amen has same issue. Low IQ. Spatial perception deficiency

 

LOL, 2 of the 9 50-40-90 players in NBA history. They are two of the best shooters in NBA history. Yes, they are generational.

 

Although you don't believe Reed is generational based off of what he has done so far, others believe he has that potential based off of what they have seen from him. I don't think many CFers are saying he has already proven himself generational.

 

neither are true points. They’re both combo guards with limited point skills. Amen can make plays with his quickness and ability to get to the paint but has no range and limited dribbling ability and vision. Sheppard lacks explosiveness, has some vision but also very limited and makes a lot of poor reads.

 

I guess it doesn’t matter much to me what he’s done so far, i’ve seen enough promise to think when he develops he will be incredible. If you think he’s peaked and this is it, that’s fine but i disagree.

 

yeah just not even a good shooter to me unless he really turns it on this second half. Started hot but He shot 34%3pt in FEB and 33% 3 pt in JAN. Shooting overall 40% FG% FEB and 38% FG% JAN.

 

It's weird because he has stretches where he does look like an elite jump shooter, but yeah he has looked like a below average shooter for basically half the season so far, and most of his rookie season (granted, in very limited minutes).

I think there's clearly some talent there, but it remains to be seen where it will all settle out, and he sure as hell isn't shooting like years 1-2 Steph Curry

 

Nash is a generational shooter. He's one of the rare 50/40/90 guys for many years. He's a traditional pass first PG that doesn't take a lot of shots.

Price is not generational but a great shooter nonetheless. If Reed can reach Price's level, I'd be thrilled.

(We Rockets fans have to work very hard to counter DD's generational curse. )

 

@DaDakota tried arguing with me about this before. He lost that argument then and he lost it now. There’s nothing to support Reed being a generational shooter. None. It’s just not factual.

 

i dunno. Guys like Aaron Wiggins or Pritchard give me hope that Sheppard can develop into something. But again it took those guys 4 years or so to develop into a pretty good basketball player. This isn’t an overnight thing. Same with Amen as I made the Jeremi Grant comparison. No jumpshot till year 5.

 

Whether we want to admit it or not, Reed is the best PG we have on this team now and probably in the future. He's only 21. He's played 106 games so far and has almost doubled his minutes, rebs, assts, blks, stls and his scoring has almost tripled from last season. He's improved all of his shooting percentages (except FTs) this year--all of this despite playing inconsistent minutes and in somewhat strange situations/rotations. He's gotten better on defense and he would likely be averaging at least 5 assts if he was playing with any shooters.

I don't know if he'll become a generational shooter or point guard, but hell I'm enjoying seeing him get better and gain confidence this year. I'm confident he'll continue to get better and I do see him as a guy that can be a 20 PPG, 6-7 ASST PG and 1.5-2 STL PG player by his 4th or 5th year in the league and that's solid PG production.

 

I don't think the conversation about "generational shooting" is worth engaging in.... especially given some of the people who are discussing it.

What matters is that defenders in the nba treat Reed like they would a generational shooter.

How many players have defenders glued to them off ball at the logo?

Hell, one of the guys the Rockets start at guard won't have anyone defend him within 10 feet of him at the 3 point line even when he has the ball.


That's what really matters, that's the difference between good spacing and terrible spacing.

 

If a 2 time MVP isn’t generational who the hell is??

 

I don't think he's peaked at all, he's still not generational. He's the 50th best 3pt shooter in the league.

 

Your standard for "generational" is too stringent. Curry never led the league in 3pt%. In fact, his career 3pt% is lower than Nash's. He's not a generational shooter by your standard.

That said, Reed is not generational until he shows that he is. He obviously has not.