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From markets to streets: Iran protests spread nationwide on day two

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Ubiquitin, Dec 29, 2025.

  1. Ubiquitin

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    Tousi TV was notoriously wrong during the protests. All these Twitter accounts are by and large garbage. Everyone is so excited to be the first to call it, that endless streams of accounts have been calling it impending within hours for weeks.


     
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    you may have missed the juxtaposition of the other posts in my feed.
     
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    Lead me on, I don't mind.

    Iran's Ayatollah Khamenei moves to underground bunker amid fears of US strike - report

    According to the Iranian opposition outlet, Masoud Khamenei, the ayatollah’s third son, has taken over management of the supreme leader’s day-to-day responsibilities.

     
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    I bet Israel bombs tomorrow because the timing works for the Netanyahu trial.

    I cannot see under any circumstance us doing a ground campaign.
     
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    a raid maybe. but it would take six months to get forces in place for a true ground invasion.
     
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    Feels more like 1998 than 2003.
     
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    i would hope it's not 2003.

    but would also hope they're not going to just lob some missles.

    they don't need to invade, but need to take Khameni out.
     
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    He is going to die in a few years no matter what we do.

    At this point I am not even sure what the point of US foreign policy is in the Middle East. We are energy independent. We have armed Israel and its regional allies to the teeth with the latest military tech. We (MAGA) have already said we do not care about regional conflicts so who cares if the Middle East is killing itself.

    So we put in a pro US puppet. Then what? Are we doing this for Israel? Because at this point Israel is a liability more than an asset especially after Iran falls.
     
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    so will a lot of innocent Iranians. They need to remove the Islamic regime.
     
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    They absolutely do. But installing a monarchy or Islamicsocialist government is a step backwards even from this regime.

    But as time goes on I have no hope Iran can become a Germany or UK or even a Turkey or India. It’ll end up a Pakistan or Egypt if it’s lucky. Syria and Libya if it’s not.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index
     
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    The US has sent a message to Iran not to respond harshly should the US strike Iran, the request has been rejected - Al Arabiya
     
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    NEW: Turkey plans buffer zone if Iran government falls

    • Ankara draws up plans to prevent a wave of potential refugees in case of a US attack on Iran

    • Last year Turkey estimated 1 million people could come to the border in such scenario
     
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    There is literally nobody they could replace the government with that wouldn’t eventually be a useful enemy for a right wing US and Israeli government in the future. Iran will always have a target on its back because of who they are as a useful distraction at home.

    You aren’t going to convert the Middle East to Christianity. There will always be some Islamist fundamentalist groups vying for power in the region. Iran will always be at the center of it and be usefully blamed for these groups when it’s convenient to have an enemy.

    Americans right now are a lot more concerned about the military that is actually here murdering US citizens than the current Iranian regime we are told are the bad guys who will be replaced with another regime the Republicans will weeks later tell us all are the bad guys.
     
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    At this point, I am leaning toward the US and Iran implementing JCPOA II rather than have military strikes, or token strikes like the US bombing of Fordow and the Iranian strikes on the emptied US military base in Qatar, followed by JCPOA II. The risks for both sides are quite high. US prestige will be in tatters if a carrier group is successfully targeted and destroyed by a combination of drones and hypersonic missiles. The Iranian government falling would result in millions of refugees pouring into Turkey which Turkey explicitly does not want, especially after the Syrians who fled into Turkey.

    In this peace scenario, the Iranian government survives the day, and the snap back sanctions that went into effect post US withdrawal from JCPOA II will be relieved so the Iranian economy would improve dramatically the following weeks and months.

    The Israeli government will likely be very unhappy with this outcome. Anything less than the destruction of the Iranian government will be seen as a strategic failure for Israel's interests. And the US has shown that Israel has a very long leash.

    The timing of the protests, the scale, and the coordination makes me think that this was intentionally triggered by the US or Israel with the hopes that it would conflagrate into a people's revolution. Especially given the immediately proceeding meeting between Trump and Netanyahu.

    The Iranian people who protested did so because the conditions in Iran are terrible, not because they were tricked into it. Thousands died because they wanted to see a better life and future.
     
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    your final and penultimate points would appear to be in conflict with one another. Perhaps that's not your intention, but that's how it reads to me.

    reimplementing JCPOA (II, or something new) would be a strategic defeat not only for Israel, but for the US, Trump individually, and the entire ME. Any agreement which leaves the Islamic regime in place, with or w/o the Supreme Leader, would be a disaster for the Iranian people. Khameni needs to go, one way or another. I don't think he will go willingly.
     
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    The same way they took Hussein out? Ghaddafi out?

    Mubarak? Al Bashir? Mossadegh? Arbenz in South America?

    It sounds great in theory, but evidence point strongly to it being a very bad idea.

    There have been a couple success stories - but like 90% have backfired.

    We really should have almost nothing to do with Iran.

    If we wanted to have any real control in the Middle East, we would have kept control of Iraq and developed it into a Western style democracy.... we didn't, we left.
     

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