Astros Get Graveman for Toro + Smith

If Graveman helps Houston win another World Series, I wouldn't care if he left or if Toro becomes a hall of fame. Just give me another title!

 

You make this trade 10 times out of 10. Graveman fills a desperate need and Toro was blocked long term.

 

Pack your bags and head across the stadium.

 

Matt Dominguez without the defense?

 

I liked Toro but with The infield locked in I can understand the move. Hope he gets to play a lot.

Graveman is pretty dang good, but the Ms have another reliever who will fill his void and has had just as good a season but I’m drawing a blank on his name so we’re not really weakening them IMO.

Please no more Raley or Bielak. Please.

 

I feel Toro won't become an all star so that negates the other post.

 

the latter is where I am very fond of.

 

I feel like we used to rock this dude everytime he pitched.

 

This is a grade A trade for me. Getting a popular veteran guy just like McCann and J.Reddick, Immediate needs for the Stros is pitching relief. This was a must do trade regardless what Toro does.


Taken from Seattle Times:

While the Mariners were looking to add infield depth, which the switch-hitting Toro provides, trading Graveman, who was a popular leader in the clubhouse was a bit perplexing.

 

Like the deal even more after listening to this

 

And Kimbrel. You never have enough bullpen help.

 

Seattle Times sports columnist

 

This is the type of player I like. Spoiled billionaire wannabes can take a hike.

 

If I read his stats from prior years correctly, he's primarily been a mediocre to poor starter until this year. He certainly seems to have found his nitch as a 1 inning setup/closer.

I think this trade will look pretty even in a couple of years. Hopefully it's a win-win.Toro is better than the Seattle press knows and nobody can sustain Gravemans success. But he can fall off quite a bit and still be a great pick-up.

 

So...does the BBS like Click now?

This was a brilliant deal. I'll really miss Toro, and Smith did some good stuff with the Stros (and is an exemplary human being), but Click did some voodoo on Dipoto.

eta: also, from what I can tell the salaries are a wash, and Dipoto basically came out and said Toro was likely going to be dealt again before the deadline. This deal may make more sense for Seattle in a couple of days.

 

Not till we get Scherzer

 

Graveman is a huge upgrade of Joe Smith.
Toro has no spot with Diaz back and Bregs back next week. Not sure if he was out of options but getting back a top backend arm is getting something big back.