[Woj] Harden continues to push for trade despite Wall’s arrival

Exactly. He had help but it didn't happen. Some here just can't face reality or get past their delusions.

 

At this point I would send Lames Hardon to the Kings to rot during the prime of his career.

 

Wake me up on December 23rd..

 

that’s why you’re not a GM

What, u think the Kings are gonna send us Fox for an unhappy Harden who would never stay there in a million years?

these posts are always so dumb to me

“let’s send him to the Cavs or some other crappy franchise to rot”...lol, they won’t be offering us sh*t

 

You can’t build an offense around him, it isn’t possible for someone that cannot shoot in the way he cannot shoot. There is a reason he is down to 11-12 field goal attempts a game.

I don’t care about him making all star games, it means nothing at all.

What he does extremely well is defend and rebound as a guard. He is also a skilled passer. He is quite the player until he is expected to shoot the ball.

My point is that he isn’t actually a franchise player. He is not going to carry a team offensively. He is very good at the other aspects of basketball.

He also is a poor work ethic guy. Think of him in a similar vein as you did Lamar Odom. A very talented player but not a franchise player.

Do you want that for Harden? Do you want to pay him 30 million a year for the next 5 years?

The upside optimistic will say if he learns to shoot he will be a superstar... but so far it hasn’t happened.

On the good side he is only 24 and can guard anyone on the court.

 

This is true, but he has other skills which are elite.

If the alternatives are packages centered around Herro or Caris Levert, Simmons looks great.

 

That’s why I suggested he should try to mold himself into a point foward..

Rebound, assist , defend
All at highest level. Then work and get your points in the paint..

This could (IMO) unleash his true potential..

 

Giannis?

 

Tilman selling the team would scare me especially if its pushed by the fanbase

I wouldn't doubt him being petty and selling the team to be moved from the city

Be careful what you ask for

 

Ok and now Tyler’s cons let’s weigh the pros and cons and if your not being bias I can guarantee you herro has way more cons then pros compared to Ben.

 

Are you saying Lebron & KD didn’t have big help lol..... oh boy

 

Add that to long injury history at such a young age. No thanks.

 

How you feel about Wall and Cousins again?

Simmons is not coming off Achilles injury.

 

Herro right now isn’t as good a player as Ben Simmons. With Herro it comes down to how good you think he will be.... to me the big difference is that Simmons will cost you 30-35 million a year while Herro is on a rookie contract.. just to be clear, I am not dead set on Herro... I can be talked out of it.

 

Irrelevant as neither are THE FRANCHISE ala Harden or Simmons. That's what a Harden trade is all about.

 

Not as irrelevant as you say considering Wall's salary is HIGHER than Harden's + Wall is 2nd best player on team.

 

James

James coming into camp in great shape too. Narratives always gonna narrative, but Harden stays ready.

 

What about Giannis? He shoots across the board better than Simmons. Giannis also isn’t afraid to shoot the ball... I also have said in the past Giannis is overrated because in the playoffs he can’t shoot the ball well enough to carry a team and that has been true.