Do you Agree? - Bomani Jones implies Steph Curry no superstar, 'best system player' ever

I totally agree. But he has proven that he can be the best player on a championship team. The rest of the team has to pretty damn good though. You put on a scrub team, and you are lotto bound. He's not like Harden, Durant or Lebron who can get you to the playoffs by himself even playing with scrubs.

 

Wrong thread.

 

I mean you could say they were the best team ever with all players who were the best system players.

Other than KD who just did his own thing.

Most of them never played with another team.

I would call Nash also a product of the system but he was still an MVP and star player.

 

We've been saying this for years. I've always like Bomanis takes, it's his voice that I can't stand.

 

Agree. Sort of a superstar but 2 x MVP. Give me a break.

 

How come Steph never gets “he’s so great because of the system he’s in” takes that Harden always gets?

Steph went from low level All-Star to MVP and then unanimous MVP immediately after the change from Mark Jackson’s system to Steve Kerr‘s. Harden was a top 5 player and MVP level before MDA. All he’s done since then is be able to turn a stepback from three into a 37% shot, and be able to create that shot any time he wants. What did MDA have to do with that? I guess he’s cool with Harden taking 15 threes in a game while I couldn’t have seen McHale supporting that.

 

I love Bomani but I disagree. His shooting works in any system. I agree that he is a terrible defender though

 

Steph curry was looking like trae young earlier this season without klay, iggy and kd. You have to surround curry with long athletic defenders to hide him and save his legs for offense. You cant just plug him on any team and they win the title. Curry for as good as he is, doesnt control the pace of the game with his scoring like harden, lebron and now luka. The best illustration of this was curry scoring 47 againist the raptors in the finals and still getting blown out on his home court. If Harden or Luka is scoring 47 points they are winning by double digits

 

He's definitely not a system player but he is overrated.

 

bleacherreport.com/articles/2816140-james-harden-erupts-for-2nd-straight-50-point-game-in-losing-effort-vs-nets

This thread is ridiculous.

 

he needs the right zebras around him to be effective

 

Totally disagree. I hate the Warriors but I have to give Steph his props. That guy is a killer.

 

i cant find the link, but i read that harden's career record in 50 point games is like 19-4, curry lost to the knicks while having his career high

 

Agreeing or not won't take away their illgotten rings.

Wrong forum.

 

All I’m saying is we have yet to see Steph consistently play at an MVP level surrounded with scrubs like Harden last year, but this is an NBA dish thread.

 

There was a guy. Michael something. He scored 63 points against the Celtics in a playoffs loss. What a freaking loser. Basically your argument is really stupid and you are moving the goal post. Great players are allowed to lose when they have a career night. Last i checked, basketball is a team sport.

Again this thread is ridiculous. Its one thing if Steph Curry has never enjoyed success while posting great numbers. The guy is a 2x MVP and multiple time champion for christ sake. Yall act like he is Kevin Martin.

 

people just aren’t fully convinced that he can anchor a team from start to finish. I wanted to see him ball out this year. He has less than 17k points for his career and really doesn’t have that many high assists/ scoring games in his career. If you ask basketball reference who is better between curry and harden. I bet they say harden. Harden has what 4 or 5 straight seasons with a per over 27. Mj is the last guard to do that, yet curry is seen as better with no finals mvps

 

This isn't about who is better between Harden and Curry. Its about whether Curry is a supertar or not.

He is the only unanimous MVP in league history.
His team won 73 games with him being the first option on offense.
His efficiency is mind mindbogglingly good. 67% TS on 30 point per game during the 15-16 season might be the best of all time.

The argument used to be the Draymond Green was a bum who is only good because he plays with Steph. Now its the other way around? Jesus effing Christ.....

 

Steph Curry is a superstar by any rational definition of the term. Most popular player in the league and a perennial All-NBA/All-Star.

"do you have a chance to win a championship just because we got you" is so vague as to be utterly useless here. To win a championship, you need multiple quality pieces to your team.