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The President to Hold Virtual Townhall 5pm Today

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, Jun 3, 2020.

  1. Carl Herrera

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    A real president
     
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    Expect a stream of trump tweets leading into and coming out of President Obama's townhall.
     
  4. fchowd0311

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    Has Trump done any town hall outside a Fox News coordinated one where they would filter out challenging questions?
     
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    Seriously, Obama oversaw the containment of ISIS and crushed Al Qaeda, disarmed Iran's nuclear program, Kept the us out of the syrian civil war, punished Russia with a financial crisis for invading Crimea, and got rid of Khadfi. US influence was far far greater than it is today under Trump.

    Ridiculous how you guys try to rewrite history and spin it.
     
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    what do you mean "you guys"?

    https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/usappblog/2...-as-a-disappointingly-conventional-president/

    https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2018/04/06/the-fragile-legacy-of-barack-obama/

    https://time.com/4632190/historians-obamas-legacy/
     
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    @BurnCenter
     
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    Wish all living presidents could take part in this, that would send a hell of a message.
     
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    Can you single out key points and what points you think really need to be emphasized from those articles. Just saying that spamming slot of articles in a debate with zero input or context seems unproductive as I don't expect everyone has time to read everything.
     
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    He hasn't read them himself - otherwise he would have provided context.
     
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    like Carter, Obama was mostly an ineffective President. I voted for both of them, but that doesn't make them great.
     
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    That's probably what I figured.
     
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    That's your opinion. Every president has their shortcomings and successes with their foreign policy that is up for debate.

    But Trump's foreign policy has been an absolute disaster by any measure - the guy has decimated the state department and handed over leadership to Russia and China - not sure how you can see anything positive there.
     
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    Great is a very subjective term. It's also too soon from Obama's presidency for anyone to be truly objective and label him as a poor or great president.

    There are some aspects of his presidency that I think were great. His steady demeanor seems like from another lifetime ago compared to our current situation.
     
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    Well you're considering a spite vote for Trump because your fee fees were hurt on the internet. That's all anyone really needs to know about your presidential judgement.
     
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    and holograms of George HW Bush and Reagan and Tupac, and Lin-Manuel Miranda as Alexander Hamilton.
     
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    Obama's first 2 years were very effective. ObamaCare and huge stimulus bills got passed.

    Obama's last 6 years were not very effective. The Republican controlled Congress did not want Obama to have any domestic legislative successes. Obama's foreign policy successes (Paris Climate and Iran Nuclear Deal) were walked back by Trump (mainly because he is an idiot).

    In balance I will say that Obama will likely be considered an above average President.
     
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