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COVID-19 (coronavirus disease)/SARS-CoV-2 virus

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by tinman, Jan 22, 2020.

  1. Commodore

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    that's because they stopped trying to make it. It's very expensive to do it and pharmas want a path to profits. So they stopped working on SARS, because it kinda peetered out...and MERS was too virulent to last in the wild very long.
     
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    Let's get ready to Rumble..... You got mail.
     
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    Containment measurements. As real time as possible TTI (test, trace, isolate) is one of them. Mask in public. Physical distancing requirements. etcs
     
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    Good information to keep things in perspective. The media has really gotten carried away with spinning news articles for clicks.
     
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    That is super creepy.
     
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    fortunately, it still seems to be rare.. but ppl need to be aware so they can act fast... 100% treatable when caught early.
     
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    That's a really good pull. Pretty eerie, but then, people were really freaked out about the "next" SARS for a year or two after the first one.
     
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    I think it's more just a writing team that researched enough to come up with that script more than it being some prophetic foreshadowing.
     
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    I hope that stays true!
     
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    Interesting wrinkle, via biology friend that is 10x smarter than me: what if you look at CDC category "R00-R99" (a sort of "mystery deaths" category that defy any other normal cause of death.) Through 2018 and most of the 2019, this is a very steady signal in the US, between 500-600 per week, constant through seasons. In November of 2019, this starts to rise. By the end of December 2019, we were well of 1,000 deaths per week in this category. It has continued to rise throughout 2020, up to about 2,700 "mystery" deaths per week by end of April.

    These are, logically, COVID-19 deaths. Couple of disturbing notes, if that conjecture is true: (1) the virus was here in late 2019, and (2) it may be causing symptoms that look nothing like the normal respiratory stuff, and (3) looking at the data the friend has plotted, this must total on the order of (**) 27,000 additional deaths that nobody has been talking about. :(

    **: EDIT, I earlier had an error on that, listing about 40,000, but that didn't account for the normal backdrop of R00-R99 category deaths.
     
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    So true death count likely has already exceeded 100K then?
     
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    This is another pretty interesting model tracking "excess deaths" in total over the norm:

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/cdc-releases-detailed-national-excess-death-data

    According to this, deaths in the US were pretty normal until early April, and then went haywire.
     
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    Covid-19 mutated into a more contagious strain, according to study

    According to the LA Times:


    The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.

    In addition to spreading faster, it may make people vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease, the report warned...

    Wherever the new strain appeared, it quickly infected far more people than the earlier strains that came out of Wuhan, China, and within weeks it was the only strain that was prevalent in some nations, according to the report. The new strain’s dominance over its predecessors demonstrates that it is more infectious, according to the report, though exactly why is not yet known...

    “The story is worrying, as we see a mutated form of the virus very rapidly emerging, and over the month of March becoming the dominant pandemic form,” study leader Bette Korber, a computational biologist at Los Alamos, wrote on her Facebook page. “When viruses with this mutation enter a population, they rapidly begin to take over the local epidemic, thus they are more transmissible.”

    Damn you, Europeans!
     
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    Yeah, just about. I modified the post with a correction, FWIW.
     
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    If this turns out true, it may suggest:

    1. China didn't necessarily lie as much as we think.
    2. Asian and maybe Australia/NZ successes against this virus can't necessarily be compared to Western Europe / Americas, and they might still be vulnerable to our strain.
     
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    Would be interesting to see these numbers somewhere.
     
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