When you grow coca plants outside of its very specific set of soil, temperature, and atmospheric conditions the cocaine yield basically becomes nil. That's why we are still importing from South America and a number of other places with the right conditions, like Africa. Meanwhile, any yahoo with a box of sudafed and a winnebago can start a meth lab wherever.
Major high-end audio show in Munich just cancelled, this just after Mobile World Congress in Barcelona was cancelled a few weeks ago. https://darko.audio/2020/02/cancelled-munich-high-end-2020/ i wonder what the impact on SXSW will be- rn i'm supposed to go the second week.
My whole take on this thread and the growing hysteria is that it's the result of fear-mongering and misinformation. I suggest you guys who are pepping for the coming of the four horsemen stay off of Facebook, Twitter, CNN and Fox News for your information. It's Henny Penny and Chicken Licken out there. Check out my post in the Wuhan Virus thread. I have info straight from a PhD in Virology who trained in the Galveston Level 4 Bio-containment lab. She knows her ****. Worst case scenario, this will be sort of like a big hurricane hitting. So get: Water filtration Bottled water Powdered/Dry goods for a couple of weeks You do NOT need meat, dairy or eggs to sustain your life. 200 years ago, only royalty ate all three on a regular basis. The rest of humanity subsisted on a largely plant-based diet, supplementing their diets with the rare hunt kill and some occasional eggs and fish. This is all taking into account that it's not the end of the world. If it is, all bets are off.
Power isn’t going to go away, so I might stock up on some meat for my freezer. We were planning on getting some water and 2 weeks of dried/canned foods and lots of toilet paper. If nothing happens we will be good for the next hurricane, we live .3 miles from the coast.
I don't think anyone in this thread is being hysterical. The whole point is to take the precautions you can and do the preparations you can, knowing that different people have different needs. If you're elderly, like Deckard or just old like me, you probably want to approach this a little more carefully than someone in their 20's. Same for anyone who is immuno-compromised whether directly from an illness or something like chemo treatments. If you depend on daily meds or have specific dietary requirements, you have to plan for that. It's also good to think about the possibilities so you're not blindsided by sudden events. It may not materialize like most of the experts think it will. I've been on wildfires where I would have bet my first born that we were going to lose homes but conditions just barely stayed on the line where we could take action and save structures. I hope this turns out that way, but hope is not a plan. Again, this is not doomsday prepping or panic. It's a prudent response to a lot of current uncertainty. If you end up being prepared but not having to take actions, you still have done things to improve your life and acquired things to use gradually. What you say about meat and dairy is true. We could subsist on very little. But if you have the option, why make isolation more spartan than it has to be? And if I do have to hang out in my house for a month, you can bet I won't be watching Fox News.
food is nice... don't forget -salt -food for your animals -medicines you may need because of supply shortages. Not sure why people are talking about getting water for corona virus? Just boil the water if you think it spreads through pipes. Done. I don't think the virus will result in a cut of the water or electricity. Worst case scenario imo is food run, empty shelves for a few weeks, and then a supply shortage on medical supplies and medicines because we will see production slow or halt completely because of this. Don't panic but just be ready... you can eat your pasta and rice and laugh if it blows over. Also you will likely get it, so have your medicines for treatment ready. The scariest scenario is no space in hospitals... so prep your body's immune system every day with sleep and vitamins.
Yeah wrong thing to say. Exactly why I don't support the guy. Despite common belief around here. Shameful to call it a hoax. People will be hit with this.
I wasn't trying to offend anyone at all, @rimrocker . I am very pragmatic and big on planning for 'the worst'. I actually have a tattoo that says, in Latin, Pray for the best, plan for the worst. However, happy news doesn't sell. No one goes to a train crossing and thinks 'man I'm just going to sit here and watch the trains NOT wreck'. We are drawn to drama and disasters like moths to a flame. So naturally we gravitate to 'the sky is falling!' news. And news companies and attention whores know it and accentuate the negative accordingly. Think about weathermen on TV. These guys LOVE when there's a Hurricane, because it's their time to shine. It's in all of their best interests to drive the hysteria. So do I think it's bad to be ready? No way. Do I think it's overkill to probably waste five figures getting ready for a very minute possibility? Yes. So let's look at the data and the probabilities here and say, what's the more logical middle ground that I need to prep for. Water/water filtration, dry goods, and probably a generator that I need for hurricanes anyway. Overall, I'm grateful for your thread as it does have a TON of great info, but I think most people don't have the maturity or life experience to temper their expectations. They just all go buck-wild and hoard face masks at 20x the regular market cost. Let's all be level-headed and do what needs to be done.
5 figures?!? Who the hell can spend $10,000+ on beans, rice, and canned goods? My wifecand I just spent about $600 on food and medication. It'll get us and our two kids through 2 weeks of isolation in comfort, or several more weeks if we stretch it out. I'm in the camp of it's not if we catch it, but when. However, I'm not too worried about any of us getting really sick or dying. Im the oldest at almost 43 with slight asthma. We'll make it through...even if we're ill for a while. Who I worry about are my parents who are 73. My dad, especially, since he is immunocompromised after having a stem cell transplant a few years ago. When will it ever be safe for him to go put in public again? I'm afraid if he does catch it that will be the end for him.
I mean.... math isn't that hard. There are 327 million people in the US. If 40% catch it (maybe low if it truly pandemics... the warm weather will be big question... maybe high though if we can contain community spread), that 130 million people. If 2% die that's 2.6 million. If you think it will only be 10% that bad, then that's still 260k people. Which will still cause relative levels of chaos, especially in harder hit areas. Chaos meaning stores empty as folks THEN start going prepper. So this thread, imo, is just a choice. As there is relatively little hysteria in this thread (the joking aside), just people quietly going about prepping. So it's just folks quietly prepping so that IF the mass hysteria actually does come, they won't have to be part of it. Its only a problem if this prepping is contributing to the mass hysteria... which I don't think it is. Only on masks... and that's the one thing we actually haven't gotten (since you can't).
this thread has gone of the rails, time to bring it back to its original intent. So far I’ve got: 1200 round of 7.62x39 225 rounds 00 buck 600 rounds of various 9mm. 4 cans of Campbell’s Homestyle chicken noodle soup. The good stuff, not the low cholesterol bullshit. 2 boxes of 30 each, n95 masks 3M respirator with 4 extra cartridges. Thinking of getting 50 incendiary slugs, and the same in 7.62 when they come back in stock for anti vehicle/tank operations. Some incendiary 9mm rounds would be hilarious against groups outside. Just people running around with fire coming out of the bullet wounds at 3,000 degrees. https://www.koshersurplus.com/product-category/ammo/ what am I missing?