In general terms helicopters are safer than cars from a fatality stand point. However the data is over ALL helicopter and auto travel. There are situations where helicopters are not considered safe compared to cars (certain weather, visibility and altitudes). Over all planes are the safest, then helicopters and last cars. In the case of Bryant, the pilot had to receive special permission to continue flying when others were grounded. In hindsight they should been grounded as well. Also in Bryant's case, someone I know that is big into aviation was telling me that the helicopter was entirely too low and should have been far higher up. We all sometimes take unnecessary risks because of deadlines or arrogance. We drive when the weather is bad, some drive distracted or drunk. I don't really think it is appropriate to place blame sometimes........ it was a horrific accident.
You have to think that the statistics for Kobe were not on his side though. Kobe didn't fly like most people. It was his favorite mode of transport for over a decade and that is the equivalent of becoming a helicopter pilot as a hobby.
Dude ALL the MVPs are still alive except for Wilt, Moses and now Kobe. Bob Petit AND Bob Cousy are still alive! Dave Cowens is still alive. Russell as was mentioned is still with us. Crazy.
They don’t, but they affirm that they do in his death thread of all places, and then say that they are the ”victim” after getting called out on it...
Is the data indicating it is safer also accounting for frequency of usage? There are far more fatalities for cars than helicopters, but there are also orders of magnitude more trips taken by car than by helicopter.
It really depends on what safety rate you want to use. Airplanes beat autos like a gong if the rate is fatalities per passenger-mile. Per wiki, the fatality rate for passenger airline air travel, 2000-2010 is 0.2 per 10 Billion miles. For driving, it's about 150 per 10 Billion. General aviation is in between. When you look at it on a fatalities per hour basis, it's a bit murkier. Planes go a lot faster than cars, so people are in them less. Passenger airline travel is ridiculously safe these days, so safe that the stats get thrown off by individual events, as crashes are so rare. For GA, it's tougher. When I tried to answer a similar question comparing helicopter operations to general aviation operations, the study I saw found a rate of 0.7 fatalities per 100,000 flight hours. The study used the NTSB datasets from 2005-2015. GA's was about 1.0, looking at 2018 only. Now, I think the helicopter figures were combining personally owned a/c with charter operations. I think the GA figure only covers personally owned airplanes, and not things like charter ops, but I don't know. The tough question for cars is, how do you convert a passenger-mile rate into a passenger-hour rate? Cars spend a lot of time idling, stuck in traffic, and comparatively rarer times bombing along I-10 at 75. What average MPH do you use? I don't know. I would say that helicopters are definitely safer than cars on a per mile basis, but I don't know about per hour. Probably safer than cars there too. Of course, this assumes you don't take off in bad weather, and push operations into a weather regime that you're unprepared for. I recommend people go back to @MystikArkitect 's post here, and watch the short (5 minute) linked video. It is rare to have a witness with those kinds of professionally trained observational skills present for an aviation mishap like this. Very informative, and thanks a bunch for linking to it.
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https://thepointsguy.com/news/are-helicopters-safe-how-they-stack-up-against-planes-cars-and-trains/ Are helicopters safe? How they stack up against planes, cars and trains Seth Kaplan 2d ago Editor’s note: This post, originally published on May 21, 2019, has been updated in response to news of Kobe Bryant’s death in a helicopter crash, as many readers have been searching for answers about helicopter safety. How likely are you to die flying in a passenger helicopter? Are airport-bound travelers who use a chopper to soar above the traffic of New York trading away safety for speed? What about people who take helicopter sightseeing tours? Many are asking these questions and more following the news that Kobe Bryant, legendary NBA basketball star, and several others died in a helicopter crash in the hills of Calabasas, California on Jan. 26. Our condolences are with their families. The answer, based on a TPG analysis of a decade of safety data: Like almost every other mode of transportation, flying in a helicopter is considerably more dangerous than airline travel. But it’s far safer than riding in a car. Helicopter travel is, using our metric, slightly more dangerous than mass transit, but we can broadly say they’re in the same safety band. For more TPG news delivered each morning to your inbox, sign up for our daily newsletter. About TPG’s analysis: There’s no perfect metric for comparing any two modes of transportation, no ideal way to get an apples-to-apples comparison, such as helicopters to cars. But because all transportation modes have metrics in common, it’s possible to triangulate and devise a rough index comparing all the modes. To construct this methodology, TPG looked at several data sets. We know the number of fatal accidents or fatalities for all modes of transportation. We know the number of flight hours for airline flights and helicopter flights. We know the number of passenger miles traveled for airline flights, rail travel and (roughly) car travel. We don’t know the number of passenger miles for helicopter flights and there’s no such thing as flight hours for cars and trains. But based on the flight-hours data, we DO know how much safer it is to fly on an airline than to fly on a helicopter. And based on the passenger-miles data, we DO know how much safer it is to fly on an airline than it is to ride Amtrak or other mass transit — and, in turn, how much safer it is to be on mass transit than it is to ride in a car. Then we can use all the relative safety numbers to come up with a comprehensive ranking (albeit one with caveats; more on those in a moment) for all modes of transportation. Here’s the full ranking of how much more likely you are to die, roughly, by traveling a similar distance in the U.S. on each mode of transportation, with airlines as the baseline. The “death index” is the number of times more likely you are to die. So, for example, the data in the chart below shows that a person traveling in the U.S. by intercity rail is 20 times as likely to die from that mode of transportation while traveling the same approximate distance as compared to a person flying on a scheduled passenger flight (though the rates for each are low). Transportation mode Death index Airlines 1 Intercity rail (Amtrak) 20.0 Scheduled charter flights 34.3 Mass transit (rail and bus) 49.8 Non-scheduled charter flights 59.5 Non-scheduled helicopter flights 63.0 General aviation (like private planes) 271.7 Driving or riding in a car/SUV 453.6 Chart data compiled and analyzed from NTSB, U.S. DOT via Diio Mi, NHTSA. As you can see, the only mode of transportation in the same realm as driving is general aviation. And even general aviation, by this measure, is safer than driving. Also, with all modes of transportation, these are averages comprising very different situations: General aviation’s average includes new recreational pilots without instrument ratings who accidentally fly into storms, as well as experienced airline or military pilots who fly their own planes on their days off. Similarly, helicopters often serve tricky missions, such as dangerous rescues from hard-to-access places, for which few other vehicles are suited; fatalities that result from those efforts factor into the averages alongside sightseeing tours and trips to the airport. And of course, few trips involve choices between all these modes of transportation — almost no one gets to choose between a subway and an airline. What remains clear is that anyone who does choose to drive a long distance on safety grounds, rather than flying, does so despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Outside of driving, among other modes of transportation, your chance of dying is low enough that it’s probably rational to just do whatever’s fastest, cheapest, most convenient — or the most fun. Featured photo by Till Jacket/Getty Images. Sign up for our daily newsletter
I have no problem with someone pointing out that Kobe Bryant is a rapist as it is part of his history.
“Westworld” star Evan Rachel Wood has endured a public scolding on social media since Sunday for hailing the ill-fated basketball star as both a “sports hero” and a “rapist.” “What has happened is tragic. I am heartbroken for Kobe’s family. He was a sports hero. He was also a rapist. And all of these truths can exist simultaneously,” Wood said. “Beloveds, this was not a condemnation or a celebration,” she later added. “It was a reminder that everyone will have different feelings and there is room for us all to grieve together instead of fighting. Everyone has lost. Everyone will be triggered, so please show kindness and respect to all.” Everything she is valid and truthful. I did find the claims that she is "racist" because she pointed out that Kobe Bryant raped a woman to be........ odd....... so were the "attacks" calling her a "white feminist" as if it is a slur.
This woman is a fraud and liar.It's pretty simple and easy to tell she was trying to extort money out of Kobe
She came from a very wealthy family. She did not need money. She had bruising on her neck and chin from Kobe Bryant. She had vaginal tearing that the doctor's said was not consistent with consensual intercourse. The t-shirt that Bryant was wearing when questioned by police had the victim's blood on it. She was raped by Kobe Bryant. If it makes you feel any better, I heard from someone that was involved that outlets are trying to get sealed records opened and attempting to get an interview with the victim.
Except that it isn't. In the eyes of the law, Kobe was never tried nor convicted of rape. Seeing that you said that you are a former prosecutor, I would imagine that things like, laws, court rulings, evidence and rights would be of some importance. Kobe might have raped that women or they might have had consensual sex or it might have been something in between. Not being privy to all the evidence and not being one of the two people in the room... I wouldn't be so delusional or arrogant to claim to know what exactly occurred. You and others such as this actress may believe he raped her and that's perfectly reasonable. Others also could reasonably disagree, which I'm guessing includes his surviving daughters, family, and millions of admirers. What's not reasonable is for you or this actress or anyone else claiming that your belief is the absolute truth, that despite never being tried nor convicted he is absolutely 100% guilty... that calling him a rapist - is a statement of fact, when it's but merely an opinion. People stating that she is undeniably a racist is just as wrong as she is in stating that Kobe is a rapist. Both side are entitled to their opinion on the matter, but neither are stating facts or being reasonable. Though its a time of remembrance and mourning for Kobe, IMO it is fair to bring up the case and even to state ones thoughts/opinions on the matter, but to make inflammatory accusations, judgments & opinions WHILE passing them of as facts/truths... that's just plain attention seeking, trolling and grandstanding IMO.
