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Robert Mueller, Former F.B.I. Director, Is Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, May 17, 2017.

  1. adoo

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    it will include that Barr was dis-bar for his willing ignorance of the rule of law
     
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    Wait, there’s some in the FBI that are pro Trump?

    Some in the FBI that are pro GOP? This can’t be.... only Dems can be deep state
     
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    So the deep state FBI office in NY was feeding Giuliani information.... and his associates are still under investigation....
     
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    It's crazy how the right wing is so amazing at framing a narrative that catches on because in real life law enforcement attracts conservative leaning individuals and the FBI is going to be more conservative leaning though not as much as local law enforcement departments because the FBI requires higher levels of education than local departments.
     
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    We've heard countless times otherwise.

     
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    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Stop lying!

    Blumenthal: "Did you find any evidence that the FBI tapped the phones at Trump Tower?"
    Horowitz: "No…the only wiretapping or the only surveillance we found was what’s laid out here."
    Blumenthal: "Did you find any evidence that the FBI planted informants in the Trump campaign?"
    Horowitz: "No."

    DD
     
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  9. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Ignore the lying GOP and their lying and misrepresenting:

    The report said the start of FBI Russia probe was legally justified and unbiased, but it also cited significant errors in surveillance warrants.

    The report essentially refutes more than two years of talking points by President Trump and Republicans about a deep-state effort to derail his campaign.

    There were no FBI spies planted in Trump Tower, for instance. And the famed dossier by ex-British spy Christopher Steele was not the reason the investigation was launched, the IG report states.

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    Trump and the GOP - REFUTED - once again.

    Post above mine is once again lying...and spreading lies....

    DD
     
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    This just shows more people don't understand or are misrepresenting what a dossier is in the first place.

    One more time for those that seem to not get it through their heads. A Dossier is supposed to be a collection of rumors about a subject. They are presented so that further investigation can be done. Accuracy isn't the purpose or intent of a dossier.

    Some of the things in this dossier have been verified as true.

    Anyone trumpeting something from the dossier that didn't turn out to be accurate isn't winning any points in this argument. As is a case with a collection of rumors, some are true, some are false, some are mostly true, some are mostly false, and everything else in between.

    The dossier has had significant findings verified. It appears that at least one of the things in it is not true according to the IG. Not a win for Trump or his supporters.
     
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    You're seriously gonna quote a CNN story on this? Why not the DNC talking points?:rolleyes:

    Errors like CHANGING and FALSIFYING the content of an email that tends to exonerate Carter Page. "ERRORS" like that...:rolleyes:

    Gee, I wonder why Comey, Strozk, Page, McCabe are all no longer FBI employees? Because of "talking points".

    Horowitz: "We were surprised to learn" that confidential human sources were used against members of a major party presidential campaign without approval of DOJ lawyers.


    Correct. Good job DD! You're 1 for 4!

    However, It WAS the reason multiple separate FISA warrants were issued on Carter Page who worked with the Trump campaign.
     
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    Ever hear the term "Garbage in Garbage out?"

    1. EVERYTHING in that dossier was obtained 2nd hand. Steele didn't witness any of it.

    2. Steele was “suspended and then terminated” as an FBI source for what the bureau defined “as the most serious of violations” – an “unauthorized disclosure to the media of his relationship with the FBI.”

    3. We also know from today's testimony from Horowitz that Steele himself hated Trump.

    Cmon man...
     
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    I suspect that many supporters of our president may be proud owners of timeshares, waiting on money from a Nigerian prince, own a portion of London Bridge, and own stock in multiple imaginary businesses.
     
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    Try, Fail!
     
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    1.That is what a dossier is. It is a collection of intelligence rumors, not what anyone witnesses or has investigated.

    Anyone who has knowledge of dossiers and looked at that unerstands that. The problem is when people who don't understand them start spouting off about them.

    Plenty in the dossier has been verified. Those things were shown to have been true.

    The fact that they were accurate isn't changed by Steele hating anyone.

    They were in the dossier and they turned out to be accurate. None of what you posted changes that.
     
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    Did MSNBC really not broadcast lindsay Graham's opening remarks? That's savage.
     
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