The breaking news couldn’t happen at a better time. The picture was quite powerful - Chinese flag in background, a defecting spy looks confused and worrisome. “My job was to influence universities and students with patriotism, love the country, love the Party and our leaders, and fight against independence and democracy activists in Hong Kong.” He probably didn’t receive any bonus at performance review. Years ago, tinman posted a piece of breaking news that Beijing government handed out a ban, to order all bars in Beijing to refuse entry for black people. Shortly after, a few pages long, all the usual freedom fighters on this board have gathered to condemn Chinese government, nobody has ever questioned the truthfulness of such “news”. It was illogical and high profile, against all morality and common sense, but still people chose to believe, only because it was negativity about stupid and evil commies. It turned out to be false rumor. Not saying this is false, and it could very well be true, as I believe Chinese government are doing this for a long time, same as all the other governments. But how much information was exaggerated and fabricated, remains to be seen. When the colorful pizza delivery story about Clintons broke out during election, a lot of people chose to believe, coz it was convenient and fits their needs at the right time.
It should be no surprise Trump is hedging in signing the Hong Kong bill. It’s seems pretty obvious he cares much more about getting a trade deal than he does about principles. Also given that he has lifted more sanctions on Huawei he’s prepared to sell out a lot to get a trade deal he can put his name on.
Okie dokie... the CCP keeps millions of their own citizens in concentration camps and is attempting to remove all privacy and personal opinions their own citizens have. You can talk about X, Y and Z... but at the end of the day the CCP brainwash and abuse their own citizens.
One thing about Xinjiang that the western media downplays is that the initial motivation is to combat extreme violence and terrorism, which I had explained in detail in this post. For those who can read Chinese, this is a Chinese-only report from New York Times on how a Xinjiang local of Han ethnicity views the place. It seems to me that many people here are either not aware of the motivation or just see it as an excuse for political detention (BTW, as far as I know there is no evidence of a "genocide" at all). The abuse of human rights in this case is a compromise of social stability. I have some doubts on the long-term efficacy of CCP's approach but I fully understand it. Meanwhile, as I had mentioned in another post (and this one), European countries are also enacting policies to control the behaviors of Muslims or assimilate them. I would like to hear people's opinions on those policies as well. As a side remark, if HK protesters believe they are justified to inflict physical harms to anyone who verbally challenges their behavior, they are not doing any better than CCP at all.
Yes, both ccp and protesters suck. See what election results will be within days, that is a real indicator for general Hong people thinking.
Interesting timing that the Xinjiang Papers, Simon Cheng's torture claims in a BBC interview, and now this spy defection leak all happen a week or less before the HK elections. Meanwhile back in the US, Andrew Yang is getting blacked out by the media. It doesn't matter what country you live in, the news media puts agendas over objectivity.
I STAND WITH THE STRIDENT HKers they don't take no sh*t from nobody, not the drug trafficking / hegemonic / colonizing Brits nor the commies meanwhile, Xi's useful idiot in the white house continues to be silent on this; weak stuff
One of the implications of the election result is that the pro-democracy camp now controls 117 votes in the next Chief Executive election, barring a change in the election system. Chief Executive in Hong Kong is elected by a committee comprised of 1200 members.
Sadly all I see is more violence. Those young politicians got little experience, can't compromise, little sense for diplomacy. Even if you hand them over all of HK, good chance the economy dips. At least they are busy voting instead of throwing molotov cocktails. It's a start.
Regional voting has virtually no impact on the overall situation other than more protests. They dun elect a new leader.
Nothing says compromise like picking up an ethnicity and throwing them into detention camps where they are abused and brainwashed!
This election result just shows that people in Hong Kong hate Xi as a leader so much, lots of mainland people hate Xi too. Xi wanting to go back to the Mao's time policy for maintaining his power is not going to be happened anytime soon. China need a good leader to move forward, not backward.
Great to see such a large voter turnout and hopefully the election results will buy some time for HK to restore peace and order to the city. In the meantime, HKPD needs a serious re-org and new training to deal with situations they were clearly not trained nor prepared for, and to investigate the most egregious cases of inappropriate behavior by their officers.
China's capitalism is moving forward too quickly. A brake on it is not a bad thing. Chinese are quite fine with their leader as long as they see big income increase every year. China might need USA to have a good leader.
