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SBNation: James Harden is one of the greatest scorers ever. Playoff knockouts won’t change that

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  1. Shaq2Yao

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    https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2019/1...ets-stats-mvp-numbers-playoffs-michael-jordan

    The Beard is only getting better.
    By Tom Ziller@teamziller Nov 18, 2019, 10:38am EST

    James Harden is having yet another moment, and thus so is James Harden skepticism. We can’t have one without the other.

    Harden is averaging a shade under 40 points per game on 61 percent true shooting percentage. This is basically impossible as only one player in history has scored even 35 points per game with a true shooting percentage above 60 percent: James Harden, last year. The next highest is Michael Jordan at 56 percent.

    Houston has won seven straight games. Here are Harden’s point totals in those seven games: 44, 36, 42, 39, 47, 44, 49. The Rockets are No. 2 in the West, behind only the LA Lakers. They are 7-0 against the West, including a big win last week over the Clippers. There’s been nary a peep about Russell Westbrook’s fit alongside Harden because Harden is playing at such a high level scoring the ball that there’s no oxygen for peeps about anything else.

    Every time Harden goes on some type of screaming streak of scoring excellence, skeptics come out and assert that Harden’s mystique is valid only during the regular season, that his game is pretty to look at in regular five-second doses from October through March but loses its power in the spring.

    It is true that historically, Harden’s scoring and efficiency drop substantially in the playoffs. In the 2016, 2017, and 2018 postseasons, he shot well below his standard from the field and especially on threes. His playmaking usually dips too, as defenses key in specifically on him in a way they do not during the regular season. In 2015, when the Rockets went to the Western Conference Finals with Harden and Dwight Howard, The Beard was excellent in the playoffs. He was also quite good last season, though Houston fell short against their tormentors from Golden State.

    But context is demanded from this. Not excuses, but context.

    First, Harden performing below his regular-season standard is not disaster itself because Harden’s regular-season standard is so incredibly high. B-minus Harden is still in the 98th percentile of NBA scorers! It’s not as if Harden turns into a pumpkin in mid-April: he’s still an absolutely dominant offensive player in the postseason, just not perhaps a historic one on a level with Jordan.

    Second, consider what success Harden has had in the tough West despite a flawed, rotating cast of co-stars. He reached the West finals with Dwight Howard as his co-star once, and years later with Chris Paul as his co-star. The only aspect of the Rockets that has really been stable is Harden: the supporting cast is often shifting, now with Westbrook in that No. 2 spot. It’s working fine. Harden’s Rockets have won four playoff series in the last three years. Other than the Warriors, no other West franchise has won more than two playoff series in the last three years. In recent years, the West isn’t really the Warriors and then everyone else. It’s the Warriors, then the Rockets, then everyone else. That’s largely because of Harden’s excellence in both the regular season and the playoffs.

    Third, the Warriors that slayed the Rockets are an all-time great team. Like, the second or third greatest core in the modern era. That core ejected the Rockets out of the playoffs in four out of the last five seasons. It’s not like Harden ghosts in the playoffs and, like, the Jazz or Blazers keep knocking Houston out. It’s the Warriors, almost always. (The exception: 2017, when Kawhi Leonard tortured Harden and the Spurs beat the Rockets.) You can’t note that Stephen Curry, Kevin Durant, and the Warriors are all historically good and then rip Harden for losing to them. Part of Harden’s spring shortcomings stem from the Warriors’ greatness. (And he still nearly overcame them in 2018.)

    But the biggest reason not to diminish what Harden does now because he doesn’t have a ring and because he might not win the championship in June is that what he’s doing now absolutely counts. It matters. It’s real. Teams are trying desperately to find a way to stop him, and he’s making them all look like fools. The Clippers have two big, strong, and fast wing defenders in Paul George and Kawhi Leonard. Maybe they’ll stop him in May. The Lakers have two offensive stars in LeBron James and Anthony Davis that should give the Rockets all sorts of trouble. Maybe that will derail Harden’s spring. Maybe Harden will never get closer to that elusive ring than he did in 2018.

    That doesn’t make him any less than one of the greatest scorers we’ve ever seen. Stephen Curry has famously seen a performance dip in the playoffs, specifically in the NBA Finals. That doesn’t diminish his starring role on three championship teams or his status as the best shooter ever (and one of the greatest scorers ever, on par with Harden). At this level of excellence, failures don’t diminish accomplishments. Failures only prevent additional accomplishments.

    Harden doesn’t need to accomplish anything more to prove his greatness. Further accomplishments will burnish his record and legacy — perhaps no accomplishment better than a championship. But if he never won another playoff series, that wouldn’t erase what he’s done. That’s not how any of this works.
     
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    Articles like these I’ll click into and look at what else the site is selling.
     
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    Well said!!

    It is ridiculous that he gets judged for not beating a team with 4 all stars and 2 ex all stars....

    Ridiculous.

    Chef Curry should be judged as leader of that team for not winning the championship every single year since 2014.
    Like really. What hppened in 2016 and 2019?? Weaksauce.
     
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    Too bad only intelligent people realize this and the NBA fanbase is full of idiots.
     
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    this article brought up a lot of my common talking points

    First, Harden performing below his regular-season standard is not disaster itself because Harden’s regular-season standard is so incredibly high. B-minus Harden is still in the 98th percentile of NBA scorers! It’s not as if Harden turns into a pumpkin in mid-April: he’s still an absolutely dominant offensive player in the postseason, just not perhaps a historic one on a level with Jordan.

    This is what I’m always telling Harden haters. They act like he’s a scrub in the playoffs. “He didn’t elevate his game last postseason.” Yeah, but he still averaged 32 ppg. Elevating his game would mean dropping over 36 ppg on the defenses of GS and Utah in a playoff setting. That’s basically peak MJ sh*t, and none of these Harden haters think that he’s anywhere close to MJ (many barely have him as a top 5 current player), so why are they holding him to MJ standards? When I told some of my friends that Harden averages 28, 6, and 7 in the playoffs for his career in Houston, numbers that only a few superstars average in the postseason or even regular season, they looked shocked. Harden is the GOAT offensive player in the regular season, but isn’t able to replicate that in the playoffs surrounded by role players and playing tough WC teams while other superstars are playing the Hawks or Wizards in the postseason.

    U know who else had their offensive performances decline just as much as Harden in the postseason? KD before he went to GS, but it was always crickets when it came to that.
     
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    FIFY...
     
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    That's because these fools have no reference or been the best player at any competitive sport ever in their life! They don't understand what happens when a defense keys in on you because they know you stir the drink.
    There's a reason super teams became a thing. Harden without b****ing or crying has been keeping the Rockets in contention almost single handedly. The one year he got help we won 65 games and were a hammy away from dethroning a dynasty.
     
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    *scorers, not players :rolleyes:
     
  10. Reeko

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    facts

    people want to put the likes of Curry and KD on a pedestal while downplaying Harden at every opportunity...the disrespect needs to stop

    Since Curry and KD are supposedly better than Harden, why was Harden and a 33 yo CP3 on the verge of beating a team consisting of Curry, KD, Klay, and Draymond? GS supposedly had the 2 best players as well as 2 other All-Stars, so it should’ve been a spanking. Things ain’t adding up.
     
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    Let's not forget Harden was poked in the eye by Draymond in game 2 and still went on to average 34.8ppg | 5.5ast | 7reb | 44% FG | 35% 3pt during that series.

    Harden doesn't get the credit of being able to play through a messed up eye down 2 games in a playoff series against one of the best teams in NBA history and tie the series. The whole offense runs through you and you have to play through that injury - shows you Hardens heart and focus.
     
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    Solid line.
     
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