Rockets fans in China furious at Morey for supporting Hong Kong protests

****ing CCP sheep

 

There's at least some level of check and balance. All Trump's dirty deeds are laid out for everyone to see. In China, they will spin the dirty deeds as patriotic propaganda since Xi controls the government and the media so you won't even know.

 

Plenty videos caught police dressed as protesters. Police PR publicly admitted they have sent police as undercover in press conference. One witness saw a group of masked people setting fire at the MTR station exit and retreated to nearby police control point. Escorted by uniform police. These days you never know who is who. If you want neutral news source, watch RTHK not CCTVB.

 

Westerners need to hear this. They are so naive. Whenever they hear the word "democracy" they think it's a good thing they should support. They have no idea what is going on in HK. The whole Morey debacle stemmed from this naivety.

The media in the west just regurgitate whatever HK media feed them and have no idea how biased they are.

Even though they don't like being controlled by the Mainland, lots of HKers detest the rioters. They are terrified. In just a few months, the culture of violence totally infested the younger generation. Example: In a secondary school, a lower grade student got a mob of 20+ fellow students to openly vandalize school property just because he felt that the school was not fair in handling a fight between him and another student. The school had to call in riot police to put down the mob. Kids now think they can use violence whenever they are not happy with the authority.

When you say "Fight for freedom; Stand with Hong Kong" exactly whom you are standing with?

 

Why are u assuming which news source I’m watching? I’m not defending the HK police, I think they mishandled the whole thing from the start, but just want to point out those protestors are also not some innocent heros as painted by certain media outlets. We can sit here citing all different events, but tell me this: if anyone in US attacked police the way these protester did, such as throwing fire bombs and hitting with weapons, regardless of the cause, what you think US police or government, or in fact, name any country, will do?

 

Those are the actions of desperate people fighting for their freedom and livelihood. China is wrong to exert any control over HK, I stand with Morey and the people of Hong Kong.

 

LMAO
USA had whole cities burned down because of one person killed by police.
While in China it is "far fetched" to demonstrate when you can't have elections, freedom of speech , refuse to be under state surveillance, and want to have a fair trial.

 

Let’s not argue if democracy is right or wrong, just look at it from the China government perspective, since you believe their action can resolve this easily.
If you give in to HK demand, what will happen to other parts of your country? What if ppl in Shanghai demand something tomorrow? GZ the next day? And they all do this by resorting to violence and vandalises your public transport system, shutting down airport, coz now you have set a precedence. Do u give your children all the toys they want if they cry and throw tantrums? It’s never as simple as just one act.

 

LAMO, demonstrate violently and peacefully are quite different things if you hadn’t noticed. I’m sure I don’t need to show you pics of closest MRT station to me house after what the protesters did, you can easily just google it. Meanwhile, you sit in your chair, thousand miles away, stating your “support”. I have to live with these violent acts daily, and gets called all sort of names here when I simply point out the violent acts they are conducting?

 

Oh boo hoo. My parents put their own bodies in front of tanks so I can have the priviledge to sit in my chair and show my support for democracy.

You think everybody else has had democracy and freedom gifted to them in a golden plate?

And need I show you also photos of american cities and protests when ONE man was killed unlawfully?

While you would rather have a nice car, than millions of your people being alive.

 

Obviously all you can see are Chinese Rocket fans furious topics, because China control the entire media, any Chinese support Rockets comments and news will be deleted immediately haha.

 

You don't seem to understand the difference between peaceful protest and violent rioting. Your parents put their bodies in front of the tanks of the oppressors, not innocent people. The rioters in Hong Kong are terrifying innocent people.

I feel for what your parents went through. But you are romanticizing what is happening in Hong Kong by interposing something else to it.

 

Here we had and have mandatory army conscription.

It means that the drivers of those tanks, the soldiers with the guns and the bazookas were previously innocent boys next door and they were forced to join the army or be labelled traitors and tortured.
And when it started raining bullets, there were also other innocent kids and grandmas who were terrified and killed because "a bunch of young students opposed the government".

Show me a revolution that didn't cause terror.
Even the velvet one in Czechoslovakia had people terrified, there is plenty of historical evidence.

 

That’s what happens when fighting for freedom. What do you think the Boston massacre was? Americans were harassing British soldiers and throwing rocks and oyster shells at them. The Boston Tea Party. Americans harassed British loyalists. They vandalized their stores. Burned boats. Sam Adams and the Sons of Liberty ransacked the Boston governor’s mansion. There were fights, protests, riots and chaos during this time.

Both the British and Patriots were putting out propaganda. The Patriots did all they could to paint the British as oppressive brutes and the British and loyalists did all they could to paint the "rebels" as unreasonable hooligans and terrorist traitors.

There were many people who felt like they were being oppressed by the British but didn't agree with fighting them. Who didn't agree with the methods of some groups like the Sons of Liberty. There were British loyalists who privately didn't agree with the British's heavy-handed methods.

That’s how this stuff always goes down.

 

The whole situation is chaotic and people (ie me) don't even know what they mean by "Support Hong Kong". If this is a "separatist movement" as what Joe Tsai (and I assume China) see this as? or something else which I don't know myself. Originally I thought it was just the extradition bill but now they want more which I'm not sure of. From the news reports it seems like it's all of everything.

If it's a "separatist movement", I can see how Morey's statement could impact things. NBA is the #1 sports league in China, Rockets the Favorite team in China. Morey has been one of the faces of the Rockets for a long time. So the influence he has would not be small. This would be akin the so called "foreign political influence" interjecting themselves into our elections or supporting a racial viewpoint. We'll be up in arms and would call for a boycott.

 

From what I understand, Hong Kong is supposed to be run almost separately from mainland China. "One country, two systems" is the motto. That was the agreement. Over the past several years, apparently China has been slowly taking more and more control of Hong Kong. The people of Hong Kong have been pissed for years about this, and protests have happened in the past.

The extradition bill was simply the straw that broke the camels back. They have since removed the extradition bill, but the protests are about more than just that one bill. That was simply the final straw. They want China to leave them alone and hold up their end of the "two systems" agreement.

 

My understanding is they never agreed to the details of the "One County, Two Systems" when the British handed HK to China so nothing is clear. As we know everything is about the details. One country, two systems for 50 years, I would imagine it not mean no change at all as at the end of the 50 year mark, it would be too chaotic. Anyway I would support them on specific issues like the extradition bill (that was a crazy overreach) but not them seceding from China.

I always thought it was about the cost of housing in HK and how it's gone up at least 4x while wages have not even come close to that. So the young people are finding it extremely difficult to make a better life for themselves. Anyway if it's "separatist movement", there's no way China will agree to that and influential ppl in a foreign country voicing support for a "separatist movement" trigger a huge reaction.

 

Violence comes after peaceful voice are ignored. It's the same blueprint for all protests around the world. Look at France, Ukraine even 8964. If the police thugs are abusing human rights and torturing protesters, people will fight back which is what's happening now. When there is no way to hold the police accountable for their action. People will fight back. Police in HK refused to show any badge nor have any ID number on them. The Anti-mask ban applies to all citizen except the police. Many of the police now are not even native Hong Kong people. Some openly admitted and some speaks Mandarin and broken Cantonese.

 

I am going to stop arguing who's right and who's wrong in HK. People there have been arguing among themselves for months. Families have been divided on this. Good friends have become enemies.

I just want to point out that it's not as simple as many of you guys think. When you say you support HK, you are not supporting a great many people in HK. Don't be so naive. Politics is never clean.