You would think it is Christmas. This president is violating the constitution under of your noses And you think it is Christmas. For once put the country in front of one person. Jesus this is sad and more like a nightmare. Have we gone that far already.
lol I don't trust everything the president says, for the same reason I don't buy what his POLITICAL OPPONENTS SAY. Of course they are going to say the worst about him. That's why you wait. I am watching this unfold and the transcript is very telling that nothing is amiss. But hey let's watch this train wreck of a DNC continue to push for impeachment.
Or maybe some people in the white house are doing the right thing by mistakenly release the talking points to the opposition
Why is this a news story? You do realize this will just get people to read and review the talking points. Sounds exactly like a troll move from Trump.
If you can’t trust the president, the president, to tell the truth then he is not fit to be president. This is not some everyday job. This is the job of the president of the United States.
I have never trusted a politician and still won't. You cannot trust any world leader to tell you the truth. Hell, don't even trust your city council members.
Oh don't think he is innocent. The dude is a gifted liar. But the problem is ya'll confuse not siding with the dems on everything as being Trump's supporter. The guy is not an honest person, obviously, but just because his political opponents say something I'm not going to freak out like some of you idiots. The DNC can't help but screw itself these days. This will backfire more than likely. Mark my words.
According to you then, the DNC, the country, should just let Trump blatantly break laws. And you call us idiots?
lol he's not mine for sure. I have repeatedly refused to support this mean. if he actually did a quid pro quo, a real one, not a fictitious one like some are claiming in hit pieces, I'd support impeachment for sure.
You put words in my mouth as always. I don't say that. I just said that I want some proof other than the complaints of hostile political opponents and a hostile media that writes 90 percent negative coverage. Give me a transcript. Oh they did. Ok give me more evidence. Give me something solid. Not some feelings and suspicions because you think it'll help you. No, I want some actual damn evidence. A lot of people here are far too biased and are getting way too ahead of themselves. Don't celebrate and get excited. This is likely not going anywhere. If he is guilty, impeach the nacho-cheese b*stard. But the way it is going, it looks doubtful.
This is a good summary of our resident Trumpsters here: https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/team-trump-unconvincing-ukraine-spin/
Oh Rudy https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...html?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true Trump’s closest advisers, including acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney, who was ordered by Trump to suspend the aid to Ukraine, are also increasingly targets of internal finger-pointing. Mulvaney has agitated for foreign aid to be cut universally but has also stayed away from meetings with Giuliani and Trump, officials said. But the person who appears to have been more directly involved at nearly every stage of the entanglement with Ukraine is Giuliani. “Rudy — he did all of this,” one U.S. official said. “This s---show that we’re in — it’s him injecting himself into the process.” Several officials traced their initial concerns about the path of U.S.-Ukrainian relations to news reports and interviews granted by Giuliani in which he began to espouse views and concerns that did not appear connected to U.S. priorities or policy. The former New York mayor appears to have seen Zelensky, a political neophyte elected president of Ukraine in April and sworn in in May, as a potential ally on two political fronts: punishing those Giuliani suspected of playing a role in exposing the Ukraine-related corruption of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, and delivering political ammunition against Biden. How Trump and Giuliani pressured Ukraine to investigate the president’s rivals After the conclusion of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation of Russia’s role in the 2016 election, Giuliani turned his attention to Ukraine, officials said, and soon began pushing for personnel changes at the embassy while seeking meetings with Zelensky subordinates. He also had his own emissaries in Ukraine who were meeting with officials, setting up meetings for him and sending back information that he could circulate in the United States. The U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, became a primary Giuliani target. Yovanovitch, a longtime State Department Foreign Service officer, arrived in Ukraine as ambassador at the end of the Obama administration, more than two years after an uprising centered on Kiev’s Independence Square ousted the Russian-leaning government. Though she was widely respected in the national security community for her efforts to prod Ukraine to take on corruption, Giuliani targeted Yovanovitch with wild accusations including that she played a secret role in exposing Manafort and was part of a conspiracy orchestrated by the liberal financier George Soros. “She should be part of the investigation as part of the collusion,” Giuliani said in a recent interview with The Washington Post, adding that “she is now working for Soros.” Yovanovitch is still employed by the State Department and is a fellow at Georgetown University. She declined to comment. Giuliani also said the entire State Department was a problem, and officials familiar with his actions say he regularly briefed Trump on his Ukrainian endeavors. “The State Department is a bureaucracy that needs to change,” he told The Post. Many of Giuliani’s charges were either recycled from, or subsequently echoed by, right-wing media outlets. In late March, the president’s son Donald Trump Jr. amplified this campaign by sharing an article on Twitter titled “Calls Grow To Remove Obama’s U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine.” He then referred to the ambassador as a “joker.” Yovanovitch, who was to depart in July after a three-year assignment, was prematurely ordered back to Washington, a move that both baffled and unnerved senior officials at the State Department and the White House, officials said. Within days of her ouster on May 9, Giuliani seemed determined to seize an unsanctioned diplomatic role for himself, announcing plans to travel to Ukraine to push for investigations that would “be very, very helpful to my client, and may turn out to be helpful to my government.” Giuliani canceled the trip amid an ensuing backlash over his purpose but later met with one of Zelensky’s senior aides in Madrid and pressed the issue of Ukraine’s helping against Biden. In a May 19 interview on Fox News, Trump recited repeatedly disproved allegations that then-Vice President Biden had coerced Ukraine to drop an investigation into the owner of an energy company, Burisma, for which Biden’s son Hunter was a board member. The allegations were baseless. Though Hunter Biden had served on the Burisma board for five years — a questionable decision given his father’s influential position — he was never accused of any wrongdoing by Ukrainian authorities. The probe had been shelved before any action by the vice president, and the elder Biden’s efforts involved removing a prosecutor widely criticized by the West as failing to tackle corruption. Nevertheless, Trump is alleged to have used his July 25 call with Zelensky to get Ukraine to revive this dormant inquiry and widen it to include possible wrongdoing by Biden. In Washington, officials outside Trump’s inner circle who were dismayed by Yovanovitch’s ouster reacted with growing alarm and confusion over Giuliani’s subsequent activities. Then-national security adviser John Bolton was outraged by the outsourcing of a relationship with a country struggling to survive Russian aggression, officials said. But by then his standing with Trump was strained, and neither he nor his senior aides could get straight answers about Giuliani’s agenda or authority, officials said. Bolton declined to comment. Giuliani told The Post that one of his calls with a top Ukrainian aide was partially arranged by Kurt Volker, a State Department official, and that he briefed the department afterward. “We had the same visibility as anybody else — watching Giuliani on television,” a former senior official said. Officials at the U.S. Embassy in Kiev were similarly deprived of information, even as they faced questions from Ukrainians about whether Giuliani was a designated representative. “The embassy didn’t know what to do with the outreach,” said Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), who traveled to Ukraine this month. In an interview Tuesday on Fox News, Giuliani said he had been enlisted by the State Department to intervene on the Ukraine matter. “You know who I did it at the request of? The State Department,” he said, holding up his cellphone to indicate that call records would back up his claim. He also said that he began pursuing the issue in late 2018 after a visit from an investigator whom he did not identify. The perception of a parallel, hidden agenda intensified in the summer as officials at the NSC, Pentagon and State Department began reacting to rumors that hundreds of millions of dollars of military and intelligence aid to Ukraine was being mysteriously impeded. “There were never any orders given, any formal guidance from the White House to any of the agencies,” said a U.S. official familiar with the matter. “And the NSC was scratching their heads: How is this possible?” NSC officials, including Tim Morrison, who had replaced Fiona Hill as the senior director for European and Russian affairs, began organizing meetings to try to understand these hidden forces affecting Ukraine policy, officials said. But even then, clear answers proved elusive. Officials were told that the money was being blocked by the Office of Management and Budget, without any accompanying explanation. “It was bizarre,” the official said. A former official familiar with the meetings said participants began to file out raising troubling questions about what was driving the White House to withhold the aid as well as a meeting with Trump that had been all but promised to Zelensky. Although the question of a linkage or leverage never came up in the formal NSC discussions, participants began to believe that Trump was “withholding the aid until [Ukraine] gave him something on Biden or Manafort.” It was in this stretch, in July, that some officials began to question the wisdom of a Trump call with Zelensky. In part, there was a desire to hold off until after Ukraine’s parliamentary elections. But, mindful of Giuliani’s agitation and influence, some worried that even if Trump were coached before the call, the president would not be able to resist pressing Zelensky for dirt on Biden. On July 24, Mueller testified before Congress on the outcome of the Russia investigation, a probe that had threatened Trump for much of his presidency and was focused on whether he had conspired with Moscow to influence the U.S. election. The next day, Trump spoke with Zelensky on a call, and the vague misgivings that had risen over the preceding five months hardened into alarm. Among those who listened in on the call or were in a position to see a transcript, the president’s persistence with Zelensky on the corruption probe marked the crossing of a perilous threshold.
