Attorney General William Barr has appointed a U.S. attorney to examine the origins of the Russia inv

Yep. They want to obstruct justice by making sure this evidence does not come to light.

 

Why is what Liz Cheney thinks relevant here?

Unlike you we don't live in a bubble chamber. You'll need to go back to your big bubble and circle of alt-right buds for this to mean something.

 

You must be talking about Trump again

 

No, I am talking about the Obama crew and much of the rest of the Democrat left, obviously including their loyal mass media.

 

The mass media has not obstructed justice despite what you have been fed. Obama has not been implicated in any kind of obstruction. Not sure who you are pointing to specifically when you say the Democratic left.

What we do know is that Trump has been firing people who are not loyal or who are not obstructing justice on his behalf, and that he has engaged in various unscrupulous behavior and unconstitutional actions that have put the Republic at risk. Your hero has played into Putin's hands and weakened our great nation. It's too bad you just stand there holding your dick in your hand and ignore what is happening.

 

Apparently Liz Cheney has no idea what treason actually is. The President has no idea either.

Treason is explicitly spelled out in the Constitution. It is the only crime described in this kind of detail in the entire Constitution. The founding fathers did that because they had seen Monarchs accuse their political rivals of 'treason' and use it to attack them. So the founding fathers who wrote the Constitution spelled out the only thing that would actually qualify as treason.

Nothing any Democrat investigating Trump nor any FBI agent involved in the investigation meets those qualifications.

Liz Cheney doesn't know what the hell she's talking about.

Let's all make this a better place and get rid of things like that which are completely inaccurate and end making zero points for either side of the debate.

 

This is the same Liz Cheney that attacks Rashida Tlaib for being anti-semitic only for claiming the Palestinians gave the Jews a home after the Holocaust.

 

-y

 

First when you use the phrase “no collusion” to try and shut down an argument you really look silly. Instead of just using his catchphrase, let’s just talk reality here please. The Mueller probe did not charge conspiracy in relation to the hacking of the election. Collusion is not a crime. The fact that people have to still say that just leads people to believe you aren’t worth having a conversation with because you immediately express the desire to live in fantasyland.

The investigation found things like:

-Trump Tower Moscow
-Trump Tower Meeting
-Campaign manager sharing metadata with Russian oligarch
-lies, cover up, corruption, more lies, etc etc.

Oh and it ended up with his personal attorney and his campaign chair in jail right now as we speak. His personal attorney doing time for crimes committed at Trumps command,

So let’s cut the “no collusion” bull crap please. You are okay with what they did... just be real and admit that instead of sounding like a crazy person.

Important to keep reminding people when this whole Bill Barr investigation continues to dominate the brains of everyone looking for excuses to bow to Trump... the man who is in love with Kim Jung Un.... that Peter Strzok didn’t force Trump do things like meet with the Russians and deal with the Kremlin. Trump and co did what they did knowingly and there is no Peter Strzok text message that will change that.

Just admit that you are okay with what Trump did. You are okay with soliciting help from a country that has had nukes pointed at the US since JFK was in office. Changing the conversation to talk about some career fbi guys who expressed opinions through private text messages won’t change the reality of the president you are so desperate to support at any cost.

 

Obama laughed at Romney’s geopolitical assessment of Russia.
Obama has not apologized for Russia’s hacking.
Obama has not apologized for being played like a Russian piano.

Obviously it’s all Trump’s fault.

 

From lawyer, professor, curatorial journalist Seth Abramson:

Everyone who reads the Mueller Report must agree on 2 things:

(1) It doesn't establish beyond a reasonable doubt a before-the-fact conspiracy between Trump and the Internet Research Agency or the GRU.

(2) It establishes Trump campaign-Russia collusion beyond a reasonable doubt.

Therefore—as the fact that Mueller's report establishes Trump committed obstruction has been testified to publicly by 1000+ federal prosecutors of both parties—the Mueller Report has 2 chief conclusions:

(1) Trump committed obstruction.
(2) Trump's campaign colluded with Russia.

Thus: If you haven't READ the Mueller Report, don't DISCUSS the Mueller Report. And if you HAVE read the Mueller Report, you KNOW that it establishes that Trump committed obstruction and his campaign colluded with Russia. Any other summary of the Report is propaganda and risible.

The ONLY question remaining is if Trump or anyone on his team committed collusive crimes BESIDES conspiracy—like bribery, aiding and abetting or money laundering. Mueller didn't investigate such crimes. The counterintelligence report we haven't seen yet may resolve this.

PS/ I have NO idea why every media story on the Mueller Report doesn't begin by saying that it establishes that Trump committed obstruction and that his campaign colluded, and that we're now simply waiting on a counterintelligence report regarding non-conspiracy collusive crimes.

PS2/ What American media has done INSTEAD is play the Trump campaign's risible propaganda on the Report—"no collusion and no obstruction"—wall-to-wall, and THEN the media wonders why half of America is misinformed and even the informed half doesn't trust media. Well, THIS is why.

PS3/ Those reading this thread will note that I didn't say the "conspiracy" question is closed—only the narrow form of conspiracy that Mueller looked at. Conspiracy to commit bribery? Conspiracy to launder money? That form of conspiracy charged as aiding and abetting? Still OPEN.

 

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There is no better resource for defining treason than the liberals! After all, for two years they sneeringly accused Trump of treason! Of course, they were dead wrong. You'd think they'd hide their head in shame after pushing such absurd conspiracy theories, but they have not... instead choosing to continue their hilariously uninformed (yet confident!) condescending lectures on morality!

But we conservatives do love the liberals' newfound respect for the Constitution and the Founding Fathers' intentions. Now if you can please direct the hundreds of partisan-political judges who ignore the Constitution and render judgments based on their feelings of social justice, that would be great. Also, do me a solid and let me know what the Founding Fathers had to say about the right to keep and bear arms. Federalist Paper 46 would be particularly instructive.

GOOD DAY

 

Oh look another childish response.

-Obama didn’t force Trump to negotiate directly with the Kremlin for Trump Tower Moscow and lie to the American people about it.
-Obama didn’t force Trump Jr. to invite Russians into Trump Tower to solicit help from the Kremlin
-Obama didn’t force Trump to say in public “Russia if you are listening...”
-Obama didn’t tell Trump to hire Michael Flynn... he told him the opposite. Trumps hiring of Flynn was really the opening wound for Trump. Should have take his advice.
-etc etc etc

Plus the timeline is important with Obama/Romney debates. That happened before Putin annexed Crimea, invaded Ukraine, jailed his opponents, and stole an election.

Obama did a lot actually. It’s a shame more people don’t stand up for him here. Don’t forget that Trump has tried over and over again to remove sanctions on Russia and finally got his way a few months ago when he removed sanctions on a Russian Oligarch with the help of his GOP minions.

But in the end, to reiterate my comment from earlier, you can’t just admit you are okay with what Trump did. You just childishly want to blame someone else to avoid speaking to the obvious conclusion you are completely fine with an American presidential candidate soliciting help from a hostile foreign power. Trumpers need to grow some balls and just admit the obvious instead of cowardly trying to play diversion tactics and play the blame game like a 4 year old brat who blames the other kid when their hand is caught in the cookie jar.

 

We need an investigation of Obama: what did he know and when did he know it.

Obviously this man was clueless. Romney saw the threat and warned the president on national TV.

Obama was asleep at the wheel — or was he?

 

There are still many open questions about Benghazi.

 

Obama's crew already testified under oath before congress about all of that.

 

Hillary pulling her DEEP STATE connections!!

Hillary pulling her DEEP STATE connections!!

She's not in jail corruption exists!!!!
She's not in jail corruption exists!!!!

Libtard!!!!!!!

 

It's very disappointing that so many ardent trump supporters make it damn near impossible to have a decent discussion with them about this topic. The one or two who could manage it refuse to give their opinions and just post threads that they then walk away from.