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[The Otto Porter Movement] First it was just an afterthought, then came the movement, and now....

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by steddinotayto, Nov 16, 2018.

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  1. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Please list the needle movers that "are available" so we can discuss them.
     
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    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Which teams should/would consider Wall at this point? I guess Phoenix makes a lot of sense like @steddinotayto said...but i can actually see a ton of teams interested in him, Cleveland, Detroit, Indiana, Miami, Knicks, Orlando, Dallas, Minnesota...maybe even Utah, Milwaukee and Denver.

    Probably less teams interested in Beal even though i think he's better all things considered.
     
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    100%, And in all honesty that quote referenced a player drafted in a 2nd Round that produced higher than expected so using it to criticize a player drafted #3, overall, that has morphed into a consistent 3&D player is a stretch as no one "found" Porter. Quote used in the wrong context imo.
     
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    Pelicans will have crazy length if they get Otto
     
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  6. Vivi

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    What further complicates moving Wall is the inclusion of a 15 percent trade kicker in his deal. Wall is a five-time All-Star who's been a favorite of ownership.

    I wonder how much this will be a factor...
     
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  7. Deuce

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    I could see Pat Riley trying to get in on Wall. And feeling like his "Miami Culture" could mold Wall in a better leader to mesh with his talent.
     
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    Yea you're 100% right in that there should be more teams out there clamoring for Wall. I think the trouble is finding a deal that has both expiring contracts and young/cheap talent attached.
     
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    Won't matter after we trade them Capela and Gordon for Anthony Davis and we trade Brevin (Brandon) Knight for a player who does everything Capela does PLUS shoot the 3 for a salary lower than Capela.

    #basketballholic
     
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    the time has come
     
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    Interest in Beal will be high. Minnesota wanted to swap Butler for him. I could see Golden State pursuing him, could see the Lakers pursuing him, Sacramento, New Orleans, the Clippers, etc.

    I'm of course 100% interested in Beal.
     
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    Is Morey prepared to offer four 1sts and bad contracts for Beal?
     
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    Except a Miami-Washington deal would be two majorly cash-strapped teams both looking to dump salary, right? Not a great fit from that perspective.
     
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    I'm sure he'll make the same offer for Beal he made for Butler.

    Gordon/Nene/Chriss plus pick for Beal.
     
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    Except Miami is willing to add salary.
     
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    Definitely, i just wonder if there'll be as many or more teams interested in him, i know it may sounds stupid since his contract is much better than Wall's, and fwiw, for me he's not even a worse player, but i just have a feeling they'll get way more calls/offers for Wall. I can see the interest for all the teams you listed, especially Clippers and Pelicans, not sure about the others (Wiggins, Klay, Lakers dreaming a big 3 with Durant and Davis, Hield), but we'll see, i can actually see Boston having interest in Beal too.
     
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    John Wall’s contract is hideous...holy sh*t

    I’d need picks from Washington before I even think about taking that albatross on
     
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    Would anyone do CP3 for John Wall straight up? I would
     
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    Nope, but that's not going to happen anyway for a ton of reason.
     
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    trade for a worse player. easily no. im not even worried that would ever even happen
     
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