The “Wall Act”: Closing Loopholes for Illegal Immigrants Federal Aid

Buck Turgidson · Nov 4, 2018

NewRoxFan said: ↑

Numerous times I have said I favored increased enforcement. Proven effective methods like increased hiring of border agents. Increased use of electronic surveillance (cameras, drones). And increased enforcement of hiring laws to reduce the attraction to come to the United States.

The one thing I oppose is the ineffective, expensive border wall trump proposes.
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I don't know a single person who is opposed to what you are describing.

To put it in simpler terms some can understand: I do not know a single person in favor of an open border.

Ottomaton · Nov 4, 2018

Ted Cruz (in a song) says Beto O'Rourke wants open borders and to 'take our guns'
By W. Gardner Selby on Thursday, March 15th, 2018 at 11:45 a.m.

In this radio ad released March 6, 2018, Republican Sen. Ted Cruz says Democrat Beto O'Rourke wants open borders and to "take our guns." PolitiFact Texas rated this claim FALSE.
Republican U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas debuted a song the night of the Texas primaries setting Cruz on course to face Beto O’Rourke on the November 2018 ballot.

It’s not a love song. The ditty portrays O’Rourke, a Democrat who represents El Paso in the U.S. House, as a liberal unelectable in Texas; voters there haven’t lifted a Democrat into statewide office since 1994.

To the tune of Alabama’s "If You’re Gonna Play in Texas," the singer opens: "If you’re gonna run in Texas, you can’t be a liberal man."

Cruz's song contains a trio of factual claims. For starters, the singer says O’Rourke started calling himself Beto rather than his given name of Robert to "fit in." O’Rourke responded to that sally with a tweet showing a photo of the candidate as a boy wearing a shirt inscribed, "Beto," tracing to his preschool days, O’Rourke told us by phone.

SOURCE: Tweet, Beto O’Rourke, 1:26 p.m. March 7, 2018

The song's other claims touched off this fact-check: "Beto wants those open borders/And wants to take our guns."

Without a doubt, we found, O’Rourke has objected to walling off the border and he favors a ban on civilian purchases of what critics call assault weapons including AR-15s, a type of semi-automatic rifle. However, he’s not called for opening the borders or for government agents to take guns from law-abiding residents.

Open borders

The concept of "open borders" drew the PolitiFact Truth-O-Meter initially when Donald Trump in 2016 charged Democrat Hillary Clinton with favoring open borders. Experts said then that making it easier for undocumented immigrants to obtain legal status wasn’t the same as getting rid of enforcement and allowing open borders.

But there’s a longer history to "open borders," which the U.S. essentially had for 85 years, the libertarian Cato Institute notes. "From 1790 to 1875," the institute says, any "immigrant from any country could legally enter, live and work in the United States."

Yet Congress subsequently regulated immigration decade after decade while nowadays, Cato analyst Alex Nowrasteh told us by email, there "are no members of Congress who support ‘open borders’ or anything that even approaches it."

Edward Alden, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations who authored a 2008 book on federal actions to tighten U.S. borders after 9/11, similarly told us he’s unaware of congressional advocates for opening our borders. "It’s a derogatory term," Alden said by phone, "that doesn’t have a whole lot of analytical meaning. It’s not even in the conversation in Washington," Alden said, where the focus since the 1990s has been on strengthening border security.

Cruz spokeswoman Catherine Frazier, asked the basis of Cruz’s "open borders" claim, pointed out that O’Rourke, an El Paso native and former member of the El Paso City Council, has been full-throated about opposing the border-long wall promised by President Trump as unlikely to improve security or the flow of trade. Also, she noted, O’Rourke has questioned the worth of existing border barriers.
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Sweet Lou 4 2 · Nov 4, 2018

This bill has a problem - if illegals immigrants (who pay more taxes than most alt-right posting on this board) don't get things like vaccinations, it puts the health of citizens and especially their children at greater risk.

CCorn · Nov 4, 2018

Buck Turgidson said: ↑

I don't know a single person who is opposed to what you are describing.

To put it in simpler terms some can understand: I do not know a single person in favor of an open border.
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Fox News knows what you dirty liberals want more than you even know. Lol! *Snort

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