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  1. NewRoxFan

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    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Good lord -- have some pride, any one of you DeSatanists or whatever. Feel sorry for the kids. Not because their parents endorse 45 but just because they grovel before him and his followers. Truly disgusting, separate from politics. (Can you imagine having ever seen an ad like that for an Obama or Bush-backed candidate? No? Because their followers hadn't fully lost their minds.)
     
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    Her name is Cockburn...lol
     
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    the party of patriots at work.

    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/republicans-want-russia-influence-us-elections-202847050.html

    Some Republicans approve of Russia's help in elections



    40% of Republicans say Russia election meddling isn't a big deal: Survey




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    American intelligence officials say Russia is still trying to interfere with U.S. elections, as the November midterms approach. And Russian dictator Vladimir Putin has said he prefers Donald Trump in the White House.

    That’s okay with some Republicans, according to a Yahoo Finance/SurveyMonkey poll of 2,509 Americans conducted July 25-27. In the survey, 11% of people who identify as Republican or lean Republican say it’s “appropriate” for Russia to help Republicans keep control of Congress in the upcoming elections. Another 29% say it’s “not appropriate, but wouldn’t be a big deal” for the Russians to help. So combined, 40% of Republicans either approve of Russian interference, or don’t strongly object to it.

    It’s illegal for foreign nationals to contribute money or offer any “thing of value” in connection with a U.S. election, at any level of government. Dan Coats, the director of national intelligence (appointed by President Trump), has said consistently that Russia interfered in the 2016 election that put Trump in the White House. He has also said Russian efforts to disrupt U.S. elections are “ongoing.” Virtually nobody in the intelligence community disputes this.

    It’s far less clear whether those Russian efforts, which involved aggressive social-media campaigning and other measures the FBI is still investigating, swung the election to Trump in 2016. But the mere prospect seems to unnerve Trump, who has repeatedly attacked the idea that Russian operatives played any meaningful role in his election. And Trump routinely mocks the inquiry by special counsel Robert Mueller, whose mission is to determine what Russia did, and who may have collaborated.

    There’s intriguing evidence Russians are still up to their old tricks, and may be testing out some new ones. Facebook has reportedly told members of Congress it recently discovered and disabled at least 30 accounts that may have been operated by Russians posing as American political activists. That’s one tactic the Russians used in 2016, when they tried to instigate conflict among people interested in touchy political issues, such as gun rights and social justice.

    In mid-July, the FBI arrested an alleged Russian operative, Maria Butina, who for several years worked to connect Russian officials with influential people in the American conservative movement, including the National Rifle Association. The FBI may be investigating whether Russian money made its way into political activities funded by the NRA, which would be illegal. The NRA spent heavily on Trump in 2016. In response to public questions on the matter from Democratic Sen. Ron Wyden of Oregon, the NRA said the questions were “overbroad” and couldn’t’ be answered. “The NRA’s responses to Wyden have been surprisingly cagey,” says Brendan Fischer of the nonprofit Campaign Legal Center, a campaign finance watchdog. “It would have been fairly easy to deny any foreign funding, but their responses were very carefully worded.”

    Yahoo Finance ran the SurveyMonkey poll to see how much Americans care about Russian interference. (Read the methodology here.) When we asked for people’s views about Russian interference in 2016, 57% of all respondents said it’s not appropriate and it’s a big deal, while 22% said they didn’t think Russia tried to interfere. Thirteen percent said Russian interference in 2016 was inappropriate, but not a big deal, while just 3% of all respondents said Russian interference was appropriate. Among Republicans, 4% thought Russian interference was appropriate. Here are the full results, including the breakdowns by party:

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    The questions were different when we asked about the upcoming 2018 elections. We asked Republicans and Democrats separately how they would feel if the Russians interfered in a way that helped their own party, and the opposing party, in November. And minorities in both parties said they wouldn’t mind an illegal assist. While 40% of Republicans said they’d approve or only mildly object, 14% of Democrats felt the same way. Here are those numbers, with the relevant findings highlighted:

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    Views toward Russian interference may be skewed, in part, by the combative nature of the Trump presidency. “I think these results are driven by partisan loyalties,” says Emily Ekins, director of polling for the libertarian Cato Institute, who has authored a detailed analysis of Trump voters. “While it’s a shockingly high number of Republicans who say it’s not a big deal, what you’re seeing is, they’re defending the candidate they voted for – Donald Trump.” In a less divisive environment, without Trump, she thinks the portion of Republicans okay with Russian interference would probably be lower.

    The majority of Americans remain strongly opposed to Russian interference. Among all respondents, 72% are strongly opposed to the Russians helping Republicans, and 77% are strongly opposed to the Russians helping Democrats. It’s worth keeping in mind that neither political party represents a majority of Americans, so a minority view within a party represents an even smaller slice of the overall electorate.
     
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    Like I said... call trump's bluff.

     
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    If he wants his wall, he should shut down the government now. It would hurt Republicans in the midterms, but they will also more readily cave and fund the thing. If a Republican majority in Congress is more important to him than the wall, he should wait, but a shutdown will be pretty limited in its ability to pressure Congress with the next election 2 years away. And there's the risk that Democrats take control of one or both chambers, in which case the wall is pretty much impossible. I suspect Trump doesn't want to build the wall. I think he likes the unfulfilled demand to build a wall as a bit of leverage -- he can try to purge the Republican party of non-Trumpers by calling them weak on border security and equating them with open-border-Democrats. If he was serious about the wall, he'd have shut down the government a long time ago.
     
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    I expect to see more of this "MUH RUSSIANS" BS the closer it is to the election as a preemptive excuse for why the Democrats won't fare very well. Right now it looks like the Republicans are set to gain a few seats in the Senate and while several months ago it looked like the Democrats taking back the house was a given, it's looking more and more like that is going to be very close.

    Again, we all know what that means, the new tactic from the DNC is to blame their failure on Russia, so that's what they are getting ready to do.
     
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    This is definitely trump's kind of guy...

     
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    Trump's GOP.

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    I think obama did a good job of leaving the economy in a place where trump could continue to make strides. The transition hasn't been all smooth but doomsday day does not be appear to be imminent. I guess impeachment could throw a wrench into everything but I hope it doesnt come to that. I hope our unemployment rate stays like this forever. Have a great day fellow Americans. Regardless of which way you lean, get out and vote!
     
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    I wish thee is a common sense party, I am going to vote Democrats this election because I just cannot stand the current GOP. I do not agree with the hard left liberals but I will pretty much pick anyone with a D next to their name this time(I have never done this before), I actually voted for Mitch and Pence the last few elections.
     
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    I believe that district is R+11 so I suspect the voters will simply vote in replacement gop crook...
     
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    Pretty amazing, he broke the law while at the white house...


     
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    LOL... hey, Florida.

    Florida House candidate caught on video stealing rival’s fliers
    http://www.tampabay.com/news/politi...t-on-camera-stealing-rival-s-fliers_170692660
     
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    Hmm... guess illegal voters wasn't the biggest problem in Kansas (and involving Kris Kobach, who'd thunk?)...

     
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    Voting system in this country needs a massive overhaul.

    This **** should all be done online and audited.
     
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    There are states in this country that manage to do it reasonably well. Texas is clearly not one of them. I don't trust our government with the security required to manage elections via the internet. But there are several examples of states that do a great job creating access to different methods of voting, easy registration processes (or no registration in the case of North Dakota), and properly funded polling locations. Where I live, we get over a month of early voting (and no excuse vote by mail). They just make it much easier to vote here.
     
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