‘Trump Is What Happens When a Political Party Abandons Ideas’

Thank goodness we didn't choose an even worse route by voting for the folks you supported.

 

Had Hillary won, it would have been a worse country in the eyes of the 40% diehard FoxNews watchers because they love the misery of hate obsessing over Hillary and the GOP gives them all the fuel they can give with Benghazi type of scandals.

But let's be honest here about the real differences-

Hillary:
-stock market and jobs would have been solid as well
-health care reform to ACA would be priority which would actually strengthen the individual markets and potentially improve Obamacare instead of distressing the market with uncertainly
-Syria/Assad/Russian support would be getting no love from the US
-ISIS would still be losing ground in war in Iraq/Mosul.
-Putin/Russia would be sanctioned to high hell for hacking our election and would deter them from hacking elections in the future that they don't win.
-deficit would increase of course because Democrats spend
-we would have remained the leader in Climate Change and not given that leadership role to China
-Millionaires would still have to pay taxes
-Republicans would obstruct and likely start investigation after after investigation on Hillary to where her Presidency is water down and not that much happens.

Then there is the Trump presidency:

-Stock market and jobs are doing fine
-ACA bill is a reality that will kick off millions and in the meantime Trump is causing uncertainty to insurance markets
-Syria/Assad situation is a cluster with unclear mission with unclear support.
-ISIS is still being beaten in Iraq/Mosul
-Putin is being rewarded for hacking our election in many ways by Trump and embolden to attack Democracies globally further.
-Deficit is increasing because Trump likes to spend and someone has to pay for tax cuts for millionaires
-The world has been shown that the US (largest carbon emitter) doesn't give a crap about Climate Change
-Millionaires will get tax breaks and we get to test Trickle down economics which has a historical record of never working.
-We have a presidency neck deep in scandal and corruption with investigation after investigation. Major difference here is the investigations have been started by REPUBLICANS on their own leader.

So is there a huge difference I see?.... not really but for all of those Republican voters who tell everyone around them "it would be worse with Hillary!".... think again... unless you are a millionaire or a fan of the Putin agenda of destroying Democracy. On all of the major issues (economy, healthcare, taxes, war) very little would be different other than healthcare and taxes years from now. Even then it's probably just taxes that are different because that's all ACA is ... a tax break.

But the FoxNews watchers would have all the miserable bliss of hate watching everything Hillary does and b****ing nonstop that she's the devil while the world continues to turn. With Trump, the world continues to turn but it turns much more in favor for the rich.

 

Good article, and the first response perfectly illustrates the author's point: no ideas, no analysis, and lowest common denominator. Just a negative sound bite and team cheering.

Don't let them Hillary the thread, folks.

This is all about a long trend in the GOP.

 

Trump is worse than what he imaged? What world did he imagine under Trump? The world where many lefties believed nuclear bombs would be raining down on any country that snickered at Trump? Or a pro-russia political party with Putin living in the White House? Or any one of the other nonsensical radical beliefs born during the elections?

Trump is every bit of what I expected. Its not the end of the world as the lefties paint it, but it is typical Republican confusion.

 

Here come the Trumpkins. Waiting for a RussiaLegend response in 3, 2, 1....

 

The thing though that this author gets wrong is that the GOP did in fact have an Obamacare replacement. They just didn't want anyone to know about it because they are smart enough to know that the majority of people are NOT millionaires and wouid see their plan as nothing more than a tax break for rich people.

 

Well yes, but we know what about ACA was viewed as the "problem that needed to be fixed", and where the priorities lied. Those never changed. It had nothing to do with coverage, individual markets,pre-existing conditions, etc. The priorities they had then that made the GOP oppose ACA in the first place were the priorities that drafted AHCA fundamentals. The mandates that redistributed taxes from rich people to pay for health care expansion to the poor, elderly, and those in need.

If you knew the priorities that existed then, and still now, its obvious what the framework of the GOP plan would be. They've even spent years planning what the pitch to the American people would be. "Obamacare is failing, we are actually SAVING America by putting OUR PLAN in place or everyone will die on Obamacare". This started when Marco Rubio and co. devised their scheme with the risk corridors. Bastardize the marketplace, add uncertainty to make insurers feel queezy about staying in with certain states (Ohio being a swing state AND a state where insurers are apparently "fleeing" is no coincidence), and do schemes like Rubio did in order to manipulate how insurers frontload the financial burden in order to make it look like ACA is imploding.

So did they have a healthcare bill ready to go... of course they didn't. But they sure as hell seem to have had a plan started far before Trump got elected.

A. Undermine ACA
B. Tell the American public ACA is imploding
C. Slip past the Tax bill (called AHCA which is deceptively similar in name to ACA on purpose)
D. Tell America that they saved healthcare in this country
E. Hope Americans are stupid
F. 2020 comes and the damage done by imposing AHCA comes into play, and they'll hope Americans don't pay attention in an election year

Again its not a healthcare bill anyways. Its a tax bill. If you forget about the healthcare angle its obvious what the GOP plan was going to be and what it is still now.

 

I dont mind being called names like the lowest common denominator. If you guys havent noticed my one or two sentence responses bait you into these long winded 10 paragraph rebuttals or name calling, then thats on you. I may break out 4 sentences in the basketball (or baseball) section of the basketball message board but until then you guys can just keep typing.

 

What? You believe trolling and baiting is a positive thing?

 

He's a trump supporter... So obviously yes.

 

Exactly. I kind of like Astrodome and wasn't calling him names. But his POST was terrible and precisely what the thoughtful article decries.

 

I know my post was terrible but the multiple daily threads of Trump bashing is getting old. Anybody can just turn on CNN and get those type of stories but at least CNN apologizes occasionally.

 

And democrats are still loosing to him

What does that tell you

Worry about your team