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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by varughese.arun, Jan 4, 2017.

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  1. javal_lon

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    Too bad he'd be a pick and pop player.. I'll take my chances with Ryno in this offense..
     
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    I'd send Nene, McDaniels, Brewer and 2017 2nd Rd Pick for Ibaka. Keepin the rest of my goody bag.
     
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    Previously, ibuka, wesrbook and durant are in one team. Finally, they just reach west final.
     
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  4. varughese.arun

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    I was trying to be funny... but that didn't come across well.

    Yes you're right I do think the Rockets are going to attract free agents like flies to light.
     
    #64 varughese.arun, Jan 5, 2017
  5. saleem

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    He can bring defense and rebounding along with decent spacing. Ryno can't give us all of that. I doubt if we can get him without giving up too much in return.
     
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    Orlando is going to want a First round pick and something better than ennis/Corey/or KJ. probably hard to get Ibaka
     
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    Can he give us rebounding, though? I like Ibaka in theory and think he could be a great third big to complement Ryno and Capela at the 4/5, but the guy has always been a pretty mediocre rebounder. Better than Anderson? Sure. But still below average for an NBA big man.
     
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    I think Ibaka will only be attainable via trade if makes it clear that he won't re-up with Orlando next summer. Otherwise our assets probably won't cut it for the Magic.
     
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    Ibaka is the Draymond Green eraser we need
     
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    Please delete the previous post. I made an error, by not being able to post a reply.

    I do agree that Ibaka isn't a great rebounder, but he is roughly the equivalent of Capela in this regard, and a is a good overall 4/5. I doubt if we can get him, and even if the Magic agree to trade him, it will probably cost us an arm and a leg to do so.
     
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  12. varughese.arun

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    https://youtu.be/pifAi6Eyb


    I tried to delete it, but I don't know how to delete a post.
     
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  13. Tom Bombadillo

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    This trade is tough to make, but part of me thinks we might love this Congo Savage in the playoffs.

    Starting C...
     
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    But he's really, really not. Ibaka's career TRB% is 14.3%, which is average to below average for a PF. This season (which has been similar to the last two), he's posting a TRB% of 12.4%, which is pretty bad (Nene is actually at 12.6%). That's well below average even by PF standards. Clint's career TRB% is 18.6%, and he's at 18.2% this season, which is 17th best in the entire league. There are a lot of positive to Ibaka's game, but rebounding is not one of them. Capela is miles ahead of him on the glass.
     
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    We would certainly need to bring in a 3rd team at minimum to make the trade work. Potentially Sacramento?

    • Orlando gets Rudy Gay, McLemore + both 2nd Rounders.
      • They get a scorer in Rudy Gay
      • 2nd rounders likely to be in the middle of the round coming from Portland and Denver.
    • Sacramento gets Nene, Brew + 1st likely to be late in the 1st.
      • Becomes more enticing if they make the playoffs - they lose their 1st Round pick for '17 if they choose between 11-30.
      • If they fail to make the playoffs, Philly has rights to swap picks between 1-10
    • Rockets get Ibaka.
    We end up losing all of our draft picks this year, but if we're "All-In" this year, IMO, it's worth sacrificing 2017 draft picks.

    Harden
    Bev/Gordon
    Ariza/Dekker
    Ryno/Ibaka/Harrell
    Capella/Ibaka/Harrell

    IMO, you bring Ibaka off the bench. Ryno creates more spacing for Harden to operate and dont wanna mess with starting 5 chemistry. Bring Gordon and Ibaka off the bench with their first substitutions for Bev and Capella.
     
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    Amazing work! Exactly everything he said.
     
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    Jodie Meeks is the low priced guy off Orlando that would be the PERFECT 4th guard. Truly a shooting machine that fits D'Antoni...

    1 year left at 6 million. Literally perfect for us. Brewer and a second rounder...
     
    #77 Tom Bombadillo, Jan 5, 2017
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    Meeks is interesting. Why is he starting over Fournier?

    And does anyone know what the hell Frank Vogel is doing with the Magic and their rotations?

    The Magic are a team ripe for a trade. I don't think they move Ibaka considering they traded a lottery pick + Oladipo for him. They knew he would be a UFA so I expect they will MAX him. But the rest of the roster? odd.
     
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    ... and played for MDA ...
     
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    This is the guy. He will take over Corey Brewer's 10-15 minutes and maybe more.
     
    #80 Tom Bombadillo, Jan 5, 2017
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